Dbol and Anavar cycle

I just started a dianabol anavar cycle about two weeks ago... wich im regretting ever more so after reading countless forums on just this subject, did a lot of research on steroids and chose not to take the injection route, witch I now know was a mistake, that said its to late now, and its my first cycle

I am going to post all the information I can, so I can get good advise on diet and training, be honest but down be brutal because of this cycle I'm doing, I was naïve....

Age: 27
height: 183cm
Weight 80kg
%bf : guessing about 15-17% guessing only because I live in a small town and when you say Body fat Percentage people stare at me like I'm crazy. belly fat present but top abs visible
lifting: 2years
Goal: more visible defined muscle good quality muscle gains.

Cycle:

Dianabol Week 1 to 4 25mg/day
Anavar week 3 to 6 40mg/day

PCT: nolvadex and proviron

my normal gym routine was Volume load and frequency, in three week rotations, gym 5 times a week two rest days. about 15 to 20 min cardio in the morning (jogging) and weight training in the afternoon.

Monday: Chest and shoulders
Tuesday: Back and traps
Wednesday: Abs
Thusrday: legs
Friday: arms and legs

now here is where I need advice DIET:

Typical diet:

Wake up 06:00 1scoop weigh protein
07:30 1cup oatmeal with honey and cinnamon. 1 scoop weigh protein. 100g low fat yoghurt.
09:00 1 scoop weigh protein
11:00 MRP evox 100g plus fruit and Peanuts
13:00 150g sliced ham/chicken/ground beef, 6 provitas half cup low fat cottage cheese/cream cheese
15:00 MRP evox 100g fruit
19:00 200g lean meat one cup sweat potato or Brown rice, 1 cup steam veg and salad
21:00 1 scoop weigh protein an 2 tbsp. Peanut butter.

This is only an example of one day, I do incorporate fish and eggs as well.

I would realy appreciate your opinions and advice

Drop the Dbol and increase the Anavar to 60mg for 6 weeks read the diet stickies as they say in the classics your diet is Sh*t

What mike said

That diet has way too many sugar in and youll probably just get more fat

Add proviron as part of your cycle,you CANNOT use it as pct

Read diet stickies and sample cycles then come back and youll get more help

No. Forget steroids for now, even the var. You need more research.

Like I said, I was naïve...I am already doing the cycle, and wont rush into anything else like this again. thanks for the tip on my diet, so I should cut back on the sugar. Made a mistake with the Proviron stretches from week 6 to 7 and nolvadex 2 weeks after as PCT.

Ya sorry I was skim reading. Definitely drop the dbol as mike suggested.

Best bet is:

Var 40-60mg for another few weeks
Prov 40-60mg same as above

PCT

Get some clomid: 100mg for first week
Thereafter nolva 20mg for 4 weeks

Thanks, I'm going to finish out this week on dbol and drop it from next week. After this I will get back to you guys on a proper cycle... after I have done some more research! so do I go for a protein packed diet and cut the carbs? how many grams of carbs per kg of body weight would you say would suffice?

Drop the dbol now.

Read the diet stickies that DJ wrote it will help u structure a diet especially the calculation of calories...work out your maintenance ...u have to weigh your food cut 250 to 500 calories for fat loss ...3g per kg protein ..

Tell me why you feel its necessary to drop the Dbol immediately?

mike123 just post a link, I am new to this site! thanks man

water weight = Dbol good for a frontload when using test as it kicks in quick but u loose the size just as quick....read the articles sect above there a sh*t load of info...

Dries87 wrote: Tell me why you feel its necessary to drop the Dbol immediately?

You are running two orals at the same time, albeit one is not too harsh, but it is still silly. Dbol without test is a waste, you will lose it all afterwards while damaging your liver. There is no logical reason to keep taking it, only logical reasons to stop.

have you ever done a dbol cycle only to know that you loose all gains after you stop taking dbol? and im not taking 100mg of dbol each day im at 25mg a day. I know what dbol does regarding water retention, and understand that the weight you put on is miss leading, but im not doing this to be a bodybuilder, im doing 4 weeks of dbol, on a low dose, started at 15mg per day 1st week, by the time I'm finished with the anavar the water gains should have dissipated, the anavar does not retain water wich means when im finished with the 8 week cycle I would not have any water retention. and any gains I made would be lean muscle or fat due to inconsistent diet while on Dbol, you said it your self, anavar is very mild to the liver, and dbol gives great pumps and strength spikes. I did say in my first post that I want to have defined muscle, and its a myth that you loose all muscle after a dbol only cycle, you do gain some muscle, but not more than water.

Dude u can use the search button and u will come across plenty of oaks that have tried Dbol only...its a waste and like Chapel said unecasery strain on the liver Anavar gives u strengh and pumps as well at 60mg drink plenty of water ...the Dbol u taking is a low dose so I doubt if it is doing anything as we normally use at 30 to 50 mg for around 25 days ...dont forget the liver sups ....

Ok.

Dries87 wrote: have you ever done a dbol cycle only to know that you loose all gains after you stop taking dbol? and im not taking 100mg of dbol each day im at 25mg a day. I know what dbol does regarding water retention, and understand that the weight you put on is miss leading, but im not doing this to be a bodybuilder, im doing 4 weeks of dbol, on a low dose, started at 15mg per day 1st week, by the time I'm finished with the anavar the water gains should have dissipated, the anavar does not retain water wich means when im finished with the 8 week cycle I would not have any water retention. and any gains I made would be lean muscle or fat due to inconsistent diet while on Dbol, you said it your self, anavar is very mild to the liver, and dbol gives great pumps and strength spikes. I did say in my first post that I want to have defined muscle, and its a myth that you loose all muscle after a dbol only cycle, you do gain some muscle, but not more than water.

seems your the expert, so why ask for advice if you don't listen?

you forgetting there are 100's of guys like you on this forum every year, who think they know it all and fail miserably, be glad chapel even took his time to try help. as most guys don't even bother with posts like these.

most guys have made the mistake of dbol only cycles In the past, I am one of them.

now take the advice given as it comes from experience and trying to actually help you.

but anyway... good luck going forth

CHAPEL wrote: Ok.

Se net "ja boet" :whistle:

Okay, I got it, sorry I came across ignorant... dropping the drol immediately, and going for the anavar the remainder of the cycle with proviron, what can I expect on this cycle? guess I'm mad that at myself at the end of the day, denial!

Dude, im no expert but rather just take the advice,no-one here will mislead you trust me

The only way to determine what you gonna get outa the cycle is via diet

For your goal there are millions of diets-the best for me is Ketogenic,High fat moderate protein,very low carb.. Use the search function and google

I Have done a few dbol only cycles...its not a myth bud!! You really lose everything..so follow the advice given.

Dries87 wrote: what can I expect on this cycle? guess I'm mad that at myself at the end of the day, denial!

Some strength increase but with your bodyfat %.... not much else

Dude I've done 3 dbol cycles in 3 years(2010-2011-2012) n all of them were a waste, I look better now that I'm following a decent diet I made myself, I literally looked like I never took dbol b4 n I was back where I started each time.. Good diet is the correct way to go.. Regarding steroids listen to what the guys here have to say..