Anavar HELP!!!

Good day,

I am a 30 year old male, currently considering an Anavar cycle.

Background:

• I have been training for 6 years +.
• I have been training with a Personal Trainer for about 3 months.
• My diet is sorted - eat 7 meals a day, clean: mainly egg whites, oats, broccoli, hake and cucumber/gem squash and sweet potato.
• I drink 5 l of water per day. + 2 cups of green tea.
• I don't smoke or binge drink.
• I am 12% bodyfat.
• I have 0 to 1 cheat meals per week and consume about 500ml (wine) of alcohol every two weeks.


Reason:
I have been struggling to lower my body fat percentage. I cardio 45 minutes in the morning and 20 minutes after training in the afternoon. I train with a well-known personal trainer 5-6 times per week.

I am doing everything by the book, but my body fat % stay at around 12 - 13%.

I have recently visited a Medical Doctor - whom did all my blood-work, tested every possible thing, blood count, Testosterone level, kidney, liver function etc etc. - All came back normal and or in outstanding condition.

My PT suggested taking Clem, Winstrol and Anavar. I have been researching steroids for years and wanted to wait to see if I can't reach these goals on my own.

I am a very patient person and don't want to jump in and start all these extra supplements. So I was thinking to slowly start the process with a 4 week Anavar cycle. Just to test it out and slowly take it from there. Don't want to screw up my health - I want to live long and be healthy while at at!

I have a few questions:
1. What are the long-term side effects - if any? Should I worry about liver damage or heart problems later in my life? Or high blood pressure problems? Cancer?
2. Are there any short-term side effects and will it go away?
3. I am avoiding alcohol for these 4 weeks - not an issue for me. But how soon after the 4 week cycle can I have alcohol again?
4. Any advice from Anavar only cycle users? did you get good results?

Thanks for the help.

Good day. Doing everything by the book. Drinking alcohol isn't by the book.

Clen, Winstrol and Anavar without testosterone? Your PT is a poephol.

I drink about a glass (at most two) per month, it is not an issue for me, willing to even cut that out. Remember, I am not on any steroids and have never been. All natural - thus far.

Everyone always has different opinions, my Personal Trainer is training some well-known international bodybuilders, so don't think he is too much of a "poephol".

But don't want to start something, I just want my initial questions answered re: Anavar. If we can please stick to the questions. Thanks!

Hey Lamb, I'll maybe chime in a bit later when I'm at a pc. Just a curious question, don't take it the wrong way or think I'm trying to find you out.

Is your PT also your grocer?

@Oupa , this is really not uncommon. The PT has an obligation to deliver results, not long term health and muscle retention. I've seen serious lifters advised to take Deca only cycles. It's about short term result guaranteeing.

Hey Furk,

No he is not and most of his clients have been with him for many years. He initially mentioned Testosterone as well - which I was against. I approach him regarding cycle advice, as he would much rather prefer me to stay natural. I do trust his input, especially because he is not selling etc.

But from a Medical point of view, I would just like my questions answered re: Anavar. If anyone, can assist!

Thanks for the response, I appreciate the help.

Lamb wrote: 1. What are the long-term side effects - if any? Should I worry about liver damage or heart problems later in my life? Or high blood pressure problems? Cancer?
Take liver protection during and even after to make sure your liver is safe. If your still worried, do blood tests after it all.

2. Are there any short-term side effects and will it go away?
Liver toxicity (should be taken care of), Clen shown in tests on rats shown to develop heart muscle growth, winstrol can possibly make your joints feel painful and speed up male pattern baldness, winstrol and anavar together is just too harsh on your liver.

3. I am avoiding alcohol for these 4 weeks - not an issue for me. But how soon after the 4 week cycle can I have alcohol again?
4 week cycle of Clen, Anavar, and Winstrol at the same time? I wouldn't do Var and Winny together at all. If you are constantly detoxing with liver protection I guess the day after? But maybe there are dangers to Winny I am unaware of.

4. Any advice from Anavar only cycle users? did you get good results?
Yeah, do 6-8 week cycle. 60mg Var daily, 40mg Proviron daily, Clen taper up from 20mg to 120mg. You'll get lean hard and vasky. If you want to make it even better, in the morning before cardio take 10mg Yohimbine. Yes I got good results. Now, get diced and pull some summer pussy. Enjoy dude.

Lamb wrote: He initially mentioned Testosterone as well - which I was against.

What is your reasoning behind wanting to stay away from test? Bang for buck it can't be beat and if you do it properly (i.e. Listen to the guys on this forum) there is as little risk involved as there is with doing only Var.

Schmidt wrote:

Lamb wrote: He initially mentioned Testosterone as well - which I was against.

What is your reasoning behind wanting to stay away from test? Bang for buck it can't be beat and if you do it properly (i.e. Listen to the guys on this forum) there is as little risk involved as there is with doing only Var.

Schmidt, just read your thread. I think you 2 have the same goals in mind, but the difference you being more advanced.

Furk & Schmidt - THANK YOU!

Just the advice and confirmation I was looking for. I really appreciate the help. I will post some pics of my before and after results.

And will do a medical check-up afterwards and share my results/ experience.

Cheers vir eers.

Lamb wrote: Furk & Schmidt - THANK YOU!

Just the advice and confirmation I was looking for. I really appreciate the help. I will post some pics of my before and after results.

And will do a medical check-up afterwards and share my results/ experience.

Cheers vir eers.

No worries mate. Hope you achieve what you set out for. Yeah keep us updated. I don't want to encourage you down a path you don't want, but I am pretty sure you'll push the pin one day. That tends to happen. Ciao ciao.

Hi Lamb

I am currently 4 weeks into a anavar and proviron cycle and its been great. Strength has gone up and probably more pertinent to your concern, I have seen a decrease in body fat. I would recommend a 6 week cycle starting at 40mg a week and working upwards in terms of dosage to 60-80mg.

I've been lucky in that I haven't experienced any notable sides with the exception of mild insomnia and I've made sure to use ONE cycle support as well as milk thistle daily (probably overkill but my mind feels slightly more at ease).

I do however agree with the rest of the guys that a test base is necessary. I am enjoying the cycle but if I had to do it over I would definitely add some test

Hope this helps

ShowOut wrote: Hi Lamb

I am currently 4 weeks into a anavar and proviron cycle and its been great. Strength has gone up and probably more pertinent to your concern, I have seen a decrease in body fat. I would recommend a 6 week cycle starting at 40mg a week and working upwards in terms of dosage to 60-80mg.

I've been lucky in that I haven't experienced any notable sides with the exception of mild insomnia and I've made sure to use ONE cycle support as well as milk thistle daily (probably overkill but my mind feels slightly more at ease).

I do however agree with the rest of the guys that a test base is necessary. I am enjoying the cycle but if I had to do it over I would definitely add some test

Hope this helps

Dude it's not too late to add it in. Save yourself, make some sweet gains.

Thanks Furk

What would you recommend in terms of a revised cycle with test included? (Dosage, length etc.)
Main issue I have is that I leave for holidays around 20 December

Ouch ShowOut, timeline is tight. I assume you mention it because you'll be away from your primary residence and unable to do HCG? I guess you can solve that by starting HCG on cycle and then the PCT would be Nolva and Clomid. You're going to have to be strict on yourself though, so I guess it comes down to facilities and diet at the holiday location.

Notwithstanding the idea of taking some gear, if you are on a clean diet but no calorie deficit and your current body fat percentage is indeed at the levels indicated then your body' is in homeostasis (the naturally comfortable level). You need a calorie deficit to lose body fat. I have been in your shoes at that BF level and tried, in vane,to gear the BF away without a calorie deficit. It didn't work. I put on muscle but BF didn't change. It's all in the genetics. If you are lucky enough to have a BF set point lower then fantastic. The reason body builders bulk then cut is they can't stay ripped all year round and gain muscle. There are some strategies that minimize the gap but you have to figure out with self experimentation what works for you - there ain't a one size fits all approach. The right gear makes it easier but doesn't magically remove the need to find what works for you. The idea that throwing in some light cardio will make all the difference - watch the comrades marathon and see the fat people running it - they are doing 10-15 hours of running a week and are still fat.
Sorry Bud but there is no such thing as a Free Lunch.

Thanks once again Furk.
Appreciate it

Yes...I'll be away from my primary residence. Holiday is actually overseas. Don't think I will be able to do HCG in that case. Kind of paying the price for bad planning I guess....