First Tren cycle (Cutting and slight lean mass)

Hi everyone, run around 5-6 cycles under my belt (over the past 5 years) and last cycle was back in July for 16 weeks.
I'm 33 years old.

Cycle I completed in July 2015 (last cycle was a test and masteron cycle):
week 1-4
LP winstrol @ 50mg/day
Week 1-12
PGW Testosterone Cypionate @ 600mg/week
PGW Drostanolone Enanthate @ 500mg/week (Masteron 15)
Week 5-16
HCG @ 250iu x 2/week
Week 12-16
LP winstrol @ 50mg/day

Then PCT of Clomid and Nolva for weeks 16-20 roughly.

Had no side effects and fantastic results. Picked up around 3.5kg (of muscle) at the end of cycle and maintained improved strength of around 15% in most weight categories. Cycle was a success. Leaned up as well (very nicely) body fat was down to 8% at end of it.

Now post festive season, I've picked up around 3kg since 1st December. I've maintained my gym routine throughout December/Jan break, but diet has been poor (because of obvious reasons) and ready to boost morale/focus and hit a new cycle. I always said my next one in 2016 would include Tren.

Since I had great success with Masteron in my last cycle (and like to include it, in any future cycles), was thinking of this cycle? Thoughts/customizations? I see it uses Test Prop, instead of Test Cyp - any real difference?

www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/articles/samp...les/59-oupa-s-ripper

What are you looking at achieving with this cycle, what I tell people is if you achieve you desired results and side effects were low, why use any other compound and just cause room for error? I have found my body likes 900+mg of test a week and test only, no other compounds and it responds well with no side effects at all, no blood pressure, no acne, red blood cells are within normal range, but I gain size, strength and overall mood + libido is improved, so why would I use anything else?

Well the results were 'good', but not amazing. I suppose it was an intermediate cycle.
I've heard that Tren gives amazing results; so I suppose was thinking of trying it.
Masteron I've been on as well, and made me hard and possibly limited side effects. I had no libido issues.
So if I do test, mast again (which this cycle basically is, but slightly lower dosages), but add Tren - not sure what the results would be, unless I try it.
I'd like to increase strength, grow in some size, while reducing body fat levels for new year.

33 years old. 1.77m tall, 84.5kg now (but usually 81-81.5kg at 8-9% body fat).

Don't get me wrong, I believe everyone has to try tren once.. Will I ever use it again? Hell no... However if you are a healthy person and not on chronic medication from blood pressure, etc, then I say go for it and see how it works for you.

00pump wrote: Don't get me wrong, I believe everyone has to try tren once.. Will I ever use it again? Hell no... However if you are a healthy person and not on chronic medication from blood pressure, etc, then I say go for it and see how it works for you.

Eish Mr Pump....I am on pressure meds. Zartan. Started on 25mg, then up to 50mg. Pressure used to be 160/100, got down to 130/80, dropped back to 25mg, pressure stayed around 135/85ish. And had not done juice since my kidney scare....and as u said, everyone should try tren at least once.....so.....currently doin a tren/prop/sus cycle.....jus gonna run for bout 4 weeks max....started very slow, 40mg tren every 2nd day, 2nd week nw, up to 80mg. Take it wid 100mg prop and add the sus every 6th day. Pressure did go up....160/95, increased zartan to 50mg again, now I am 140/90. Feel a lil anxiety and extra heated....when it gets too much, I pop a valium to sleep and relax at nite along with my usual camomile tea....any thoughts kind sir?

The Zartan might not be strong enough on this cycle and you will need coaprovel or aprovel, that's always the next step medication to take when Zartan 50 stops working.. Anxiety can be lowered with motherwort, 10 drops drops 3 times a day.

Thank you for ur fantastic advice as per norm Pump.

So all cool for this cycle based on my above:
Cycle:

Tren Ace 80 (0.8ml)
Test Prop 100 (1ml)
Masteron Prop 100 (1ml)

www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/articles/samp...les/59-oupa-s-ripper

You can start with 100mg tren A, no need for 80mg

Meaning 1.2ml of Tren 80, to make 100mg ? As that's PGW's version...

benigma wrote: Meaning 1.2ml of Tren 80, to make 100mg ? As that's PGW's version...

Correct

Been years since I did this. Keen to go at it again.
Any difference changing to test cyp, tren and mast ena so twice weekly injections over EOD ace/prop etc?

benigma wrote: Been years since I did this. Keen to go at it again.
Any difference changing to test cyp, tren and mast ena so twice weekly injections over EOD ace/prop etc?

The longer esters of tren does not have the same effect as the short esters for me personally.

Almost like it is not as potent, Oupa?

Rooi Bul 86 wrote: Almost like it is not as potent, Oupa?

It doesn't have the same emotional effect at all. Sex drive on Tren E is not remotely close to using tren A. No night sweats, no aggression, no heating up like a fire cracker when eating carbs. Just not as potent for me.

I ran Tren E and Test E end last year at 12% Body Fat at 100kg. Tren was 400mg a week split 200mg Monday 200mg Thursday the Test was 100mg Monday 100mg Thursday.

Did not get Tren cough was happy about that. Was more Sexual than on Test alone. Cycle was just 10 weeks. I will try Tren Ace this year when I am 12 percent again.