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09 Feb 2016 21:15 #196368
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Evening all!!
I have been working internationally in remote locations for the last 5 years and as such I have not had any time to join the forum during that time. So all of you wont know me, although I have been active on the forum before, hence a reintroduction.
I am 39 years old and used 'supplements' regularly during the last 15 years. Of late I have only done oral cycles as travelling with gear seemed dangerous. However Im back in SA and Im going to do a proper cycle as outlined on this website in the sample cycles section, the cycle Im going to do is the Intermediate Strength and Size cycle.
The cycle prior to PCT will run for 142 days.
From day 1 to 20 I'll run Dianobol at 50mg.
From day 1 to 99 I'll run Testen 300 at 600mg every 8 days.
From day 1 to 85 I'll run Deca 350 at 525mg every 8 days.
From day 17 to 85 I'll run hCg at 250iu every four days.
From day 110 to 142 I'll run 30mg of Winsrol every day.
Before we get to the PCT I have two questions: I am very prone to gyno and with this cycle I could experience some symptoms. I am planning to run 20 mg of Nolvadex right through the cycle to ensure that I keep gyno symptoms in check. Is this enough or should I consider something like Letrozole?
Question two. I have never used HCG. What is the success rate of HCG in keeping the HPTA axis running smoothly, or at least running? Is it still possible that the Deca would shut me down completely?
PCT will run from day 145 to 181.
From day 145 to day 151 I'll run 100mg of Clomid e/d.
From day 152 to 176 Ill run 250iu of HCG every 2nd day.
From day 152 to day 181 I'll run Aromasin and Nolvadex at 20mg e/d.
Im happy with this program for recovery but I have one question. Is my administration of HCG the right dosage?
I'm planning to pick up about 8kg of muscle during the cycle, however when I start with the Winsrol Im planning to diet to loose excess fat from my high colorie diet, also some water. I'll be happy with 5 kg of lean muscle at the end of it all.
I am a banter and will eat meat and veg during the cycle.
Thanks for taking the time to read!
I have been working internationally in remote locations for the last 5 years and as such I have not had any time to join the forum during that time. So all of you wont know me, although I have been active on the forum before, hence a reintroduction.
I am 39 years old and used 'supplements' regularly during the last 15 years. Of late I have only done oral cycles as travelling with gear seemed dangerous. However Im back in SA and Im going to do a proper cycle as outlined on this website in the sample cycles section, the cycle Im going to do is the Intermediate Strength and Size cycle.
The cycle prior to PCT will run for 142 days.
From day 1 to 20 I'll run Dianobol at 50mg.
From day 1 to 99 I'll run Testen 300 at 600mg every 8 days.
From day 1 to 85 I'll run Deca 350 at 525mg every 8 days.
From day 17 to 85 I'll run hCg at 250iu every four days.
From day 110 to 142 I'll run 30mg of Winsrol every day.
Before we get to the PCT I have two questions: I am very prone to gyno and with this cycle I could experience some symptoms. I am planning to run 20 mg of Nolvadex right through the cycle to ensure that I keep gyno symptoms in check. Is this enough or should I consider something like Letrozole?
Question two. I have never used HCG. What is the success rate of HCG in keeping the HPTA axis running smoothly, or at least running? Is it still possible that the Deca would shut me down completely?
PCT will run from day 145 to 181.
From day 145 to day 151 I'll run 100mg of Clomid e/d.
From day 152 to 176 Ill run 250iu of HCG every 2nd day.
From day 152 to day 181 I'll run Aromasin and Nolvadex at 20mg e/d.
Im happy with this program for recovery but I have one question. Is my administration of HCG the right dosage?
I'm planning to pick up about 8kg of muscle during the cycle, however when I start with the Winsrol Im planning to diet to loose excess fat from my high colorie diet, also some water. I'll be happy with 5 kg of lean muscle at the end of it all.
I am a banter and will eat meat and veg during the cycle.
Thanks for taking the time to read!
Speak softly but carry a big stick.
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09 Feb 2016 21:19 - 09 Feb 2016 21:21 #196369
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Ill also be using Milk Thistle throughout the cycle.
Also, there was a guy on here many moons ago, PUMP I think, that helped guys with dieting. If he is still around I'd like to make use of his services.
Also, there was a guy on here many moons ago, PUMP I think, that helped guys with dieting. If he is still around I'd like to make use of his services.
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09 Feb 2016 21:52 #196371
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I am still quite new here but I know the questions thats coming. Whats your current stats "bf" "weight" and what does your diet look like more detailed layout? Mods will help but you need to provide them with the most accurate information possible. Also what I do know or have been told is to split the Test E dosage to 300mg twice a week to keep stable blood levels. Wait for more experienced users to give further advice.
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10 Feb 2016 09:49 - 10 Feb 2016 09:53 #196377
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My weight is at 101.07, body fat at 14.5% Usually I run at 10/11% body fat but I spent the last 7 months on an Asian ship with the worst imaginable food possible. They eat rice for breakfast, they call it breakfast rice.
The gym onboard was terrible but I trained six times a week and did what I can. Proper diet will change my body composition over the next 3 months.
I eat five or six portions of meat a day with veg, twice a day. I eat little to no starch and rely on fat for energy. No sugar and if I drink it is whiskey and soda water but never more than 3/4 singles, once P/W.
The gym onboard was terrible but I trained six times a week and did what I can. Proper diet will change my body composition over the next 3 months.
I eat five or six portions of meat a day with veg, twice a day. I eat little to no starch and rely on fat for energy. No sugar and if I drink it is whiskey and soda water but never more than 3/4 singles, once P/W.
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How tall are you?
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28 Mar 2016 12:59 - 28 Mar 2016 13:10 #197577
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I'm 184cm. Guys I am starting week 6 of the course and I'm working with a personal trainer as I don't have a gym partner.
My measurements after month 1.
My arms are 1cm thicker and BF down considerably, (taken with calliper)
Rather surprisingly my calf's are 3cm (No BS, taken by PT and all written down)thicker and my thighs 2 cm.
My chest did not grow much, but I'm gunning chest day every time now.
My waist or hips are down 1.5CM. I'm eating a lot, the right food obviously but I did not expect to loose body fat as that was not really concern now.
Overall weight up from 101.7 to 105.1. But my body composition has changed, less fat more muscle. Looking forward to the rest of month 2 and then month 3. HCG is keeping libido where it should be.
1 Question. I have some ANAVAR left from a previous course and I am tempted to through it in the mix at 80mg p/d. Considering the Dbol frontloading and the Winsroll at the end, is this a good idea?
My measurements after month 1.
My arms are 1cm thicker and BF down considerably, (taken with calliper)
Rather surprisingly my calf's are 3cm (No BS, taken by PT and all written down)thicker and my thighs 2 cm.
My chest did not grow much, but I'm gunning chest day every time now.
My waist or hips are down 1.5CM. I'm eating a lot, the right food obviously but I did not expect to loose body fat as that was not really concern now.
Overall weight up from 101.7 to 105.1. But my body composition has changed, less fat more muscle. Looking forward to the rest of month 2 and then month 3. HCG is keeping libido where it should be.
1 Question. I have some ANAVAR left from a previous course and I am tempted to through it in the mix at 80mg p/d. Considering the Dbol frontloading and the Winsroll at the end, is this a good idea?
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28 Mar 2016 14:20 #197582
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Bad idea on the Anavar. Just because you have a drug doesn't mean you should use it.
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