First cycle with Clen

hi everyone

Thanks for the site - plenty to read and learn from.

I have been training for about 4 years off and on. The last year, I have managed to train more and change my eating habits around. I am a vegetarian for most of my week, so eating becomes an issue with respect to keeping a low/moderate carb intake balanced with higher protein. I rely on protein shakes when necessary and see myself consuming sometimes 2 shakes a day. I fortunately/unfortunately rely on soya as a form of protein on veg days.The other days see me having great meals and atleast one shake post workout.

I have managed to drop 20kg thus far down to 85kg. My waist has dropped from a 36-38 down to a 32. I am left with a roll of tummy fat and skin which I am trying desperately to get rid of.

I am still seeing more vascularity and it is ever increasing. I keep vascular on my legs and arms and chest every day except when its cold...

I have thought about Clen before and put if off for months. I have varied my diet and training regime and now find myself in the best physical condition for over 20 years. I have read about the use and the cycling but I am unsure if it will assist with reduction of the tummy fat and bits of love handles. It seems I have the largest issue here...I currently train 5 days a week and eat clean for 6 days with a cheat meal or 2 in day 7. I try to train on that day aswell.

If there is another thread, please point me in the correct direction and I will read that. If you have any advice or questions, please ask, I would like to make an informed decision and if I am still not comfortable, I may forget about using it.

Age: 36
Height: 1.78m
Weight: 85kg
Sex: Male

Thanks in advance.

Hi and welcome

Congrats on your progress. The roll of tummy fat and love handles is a *#*(!&@()#&*)(!&@# to get rid off. Slow fatloss is the only way you wont get as much flab as someone that drops 20kg in a month. He will sit with bags of skin and look shit.

You need to up your cardio and reduce your calories slightly according to your BMR.

Clen will assist, but if you didnt fine tune your diet, clen is not a quickfix and your body will be back to normal a few weeks after you stop the clen.

Post your diet let the guys check it out.

Thanks Oupa. Appreciate the response.

Ok, here goes with respect to my diet...

Have 2 different diets for 2 different types of days.

Veg day
Breakfast: 40g oats and 30g whey
Snack: 1 rice cake with 15g PB
Lunch: 50g soya mince with 100g stir fry veg
Snack: 1 rice cake with 15g PB + 30g whey
Supper: 2 soya sausages with 100g broccoli and 50g mushroom, 1/4 avo if available

Non Veg day
Breakfast: 3 - 4 whole eggs, boiled or omelette with 1 rice cake
Snack: 1 rice cake with 15g PB
Lunch: 150g chicken with 1/4 avo if available, cucumber and lettuce
Snack: 1 can tuna with tsp of mayo
Supper: 150g chicken/ostrich with 100g broccoli and 50g mushroom, 1/4 avo if available

I battle on weekends and may indulge in a muffin or 2 but try to train on the day. I do sneak in a bite of potatoe or what other food is prepared and on the table. I dont eat any bread other than sourdough and keep same for a Sunday morning breakfast. I dont have rice unless its basmati rice and if really necessary and swap out some other carbs for it.

I use coconut oil to coat my pan and use sparingly.

Age: 36
Height: 1.78m
Weight: 85kg
Sex: Male
Weightloss is 20kg thus far

Vege wrote: Thanks Oupa. Appreciate the response.

Ok, here goes with respect to my diet...

Have 2 different diets for 2 different types of days.

Veg day
Breakfast: 40g oats and 30g whey
Snack: 1 rice cake with 15g PB
Lunch: 50g soya mince with 100g stir fry veg
Snack: 1 rice cake with 15g PB + 30g whey
Supper: 2 soya sausages with 100g broccoli and 50g mushroom, 1/4 avo if available

Non Veg day
Breakfast: 3 - 4 whole eggs, boiled or omelette with 1 rice cake
Snack: 1 rice cake with 15g PB
Lunch: 150g chicken with 1/4 avo if available, cucumber and lettuce
Snack: 1 can tuna with tsp of mayo
Supper: 150g chicken/ostrich with 100g broccoli and 50g mushroom, 1/4 avo if available

I battle on weekends and may indulge in a muffin or 2 but try to train on the day. I do sneak in a bite of potatoe or what other food is prepared and on the table. I dont eat any bread other than sourdough and keep same for a Sunday morning breakfast. I dont have rice unless its basmati rice and if really necessary and swap out some other carbs for it.

I use coconut oil to coat my pan and use sparingly.

Age: 36
Height: 1.78m
Weight: 85kg
Sex: Male
Weightloss is 20kg thus far

Buddy have you researches the effects of soy on men ?

Can't comment on your diet unfortunately as I dont think my advice will come close to the advice some of the pther oaks will give you. RB, Pyro, DJ and Oupa are the go to guys.