1St Cycle After Gyno Surgery

Hi Everyone

This is a follow up post after this discussion :
anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/2-anabolic-...e-after-gyno-surgery

So my proposed cycle taking into account Pump & Oupa's advice.

Aromasin : E2D @ 20mg, starting 1 week before the cycle to the end of the cycle.
Prop : E2D @ 100mg, starting at 6 weeks, extending another 6 weeks if there are no issues.
HCG @ 500iu per week when extending the cycle.

Should I take a normal pct (HCG, Nolva, Clomid, Aromasin)?

You could use Letro and start a week before the cycle. The Aromasin I wouldn't say you would need to start before the cycle.

Your PCT looks fine I personally would drop the Clomid, causes to many complications for me.

The dose might be a little low, maybe 150mg EOD.

Ok great so I will run Aromasin throughout the cycle, bump the prop up to 1.5ml per shot and then do a pct without the clomid.

Maybe just go with arimidex or letrozole it's much cheaper, the Aromasin is important to prevent rebound.. You can go with it, but i think it's over kill and unless you getting Aromasin tablets you can break the normal dose might be a bit to much.

2 to 3 drops of Letro ED or EOD and you should have 0 problems with gyno, have the Aromasin on hand. When you move to the Aromasin for PCT make sure you overlap the Letro or Adex a few days into the Aromasin and tapper off the Adex / Letro, maybe add 2 extra weeks for the Aromasin and during that 2 weeks, slowly drop the Letro from 3 EOD to 2 EOD to 1 EOD and then continue with the Aromasin, you should notice no rebound then.

Ok cool I will get myself a bottle of letro & a bottle of aromasin.

Do you think it's worth it to use proviron during the cycle?

I was always a fan of Proviron, and I used to swear by it, however later cycles in my life and not using it I seemed to achieve a similar result without.

It can be used as a bridge to your PCT, I would look at something for a bridge to be honest, as I personally find the dip (waiting for my androgen level's to lower to a point where I could recover) so I would normally add a low dose of Winstrol (30/50mg). This I might start the last 2 weeks of my cycle and continue until it's time for PCT

Proviron is useful if you are just on test. If you are using other steroids that lower SHBG considerably like anavar, winstrol or masteron then the benefit is much less and it becomes quite pricey for what you get.

One last question do you guys think I should use a kickstarter like tbol?

Were you planning on just using aromasin for the first 6 weeks? Just read your opening post again. If so, that is kind of pointless. Tbol is a good kickstarter and no gyno worries there.

I was planning to run aromasin throughout the cycle but I'm going for the letro now, the reason I was not planning on using a kickstarter is because Pump said in my previous post that I should maybe only use test.

It's the safest for now.. play afterwards once you know this works for you.

Awesome thanx for the help guys, I will keep you updated on the progress.

Hi Everyone

Today its been a week on the cycle and my nips are getting sensitive, I could not get letro so I'm on 1 tab aromasin eod and I started taking nolva 2 tabs per day from yesterday.

I can get letro today do you guys think it's worth it or should I just stop the cycle?

I told you to use Letro. And to start it 2 weeks before you start your cycle. I can't make the choice for you now, but you are now taking way to much stuff to revert it. I wish people would stop reading crap on other sites where you can get the 'gland' cut out and not develop gyno again, I find its easier to get gyno after surgery because you have 'irritated' that area.

If it doesn't go away SOON, stop, but hCG is going to worsen it too. Also if you take to much of any AI, gyno doesn't just come from high estrogen, and that's the confusion everyone comes to believe. You need to try keep your hormones balanced as best as possible.

Nolvadex 2 tabs you are gonna run into some heavy side effects so keep at 20mg per day. Aromasin I would step up quite bit here I would use 20mg daily minimum.