Deca winter bulk

Hi
So I'm getting reading for a Winter bulk and ofcourse this calls for a cycle I intend to use Deca 350 (PGW), Test E (PGW) and Test Cyp (PGW) orals will be using just Dbols at 20-30mg on training days. My info is
Training - +/- 4 years
Weight - 73kg
Age - 23
Height - 1.8m
This is my 3rd cycle using injectables. 5th cycle inclusive of orals

My doage shedule is as follows
Week 1 - 5 Deca 350 1ml a week & Test Cyp 250mg 2ml a week
Week 6-10 Deca 350 1ml a week & Test E 300mg 2 ml a week
Week 1-4 Dbol capsules - 20-30mg daily on training days
Aromisan - 20mg EOD
Proviron - 20mg daily
Caber - 0.5mg weekly
I also have some left over Supertest 350 (PGW) from last cycle that I plan to shoot for week 11-13 at 700mg/ week

PCT includes HCG's, Nolva and Clomid

My diet is on point and includes (Daily intake)
Calories - 2850g excluding calories burnt
Fats - 76g
Protein - 285g
Carbs - 380g

My question here is should I increase my dose of Deca to 400+mg/week?
Should I substitute Aromisan with Arimidex?
Can I include winstrol as an oral towards the end of my cycle?
Should I increase my dosage of Caber?
Any input will be most appreciated .. Thanks Guys ✊

Forgot to include BF - 9-10%

Howzit Bro!

Ahh not to kill your vibe but maybe you could adjust your cycle a bit. Lemme answer your questions first though.

1. Yes I would pick up deca dose to 400mg per week.(If this is your first deca cycle then keep it at 350mg and see how you respond.)

2. Aromasin is superior to arimidex in my opinion.

3. Yes you can it's called a bridge period where you wait for the longer esters to clear your system. Keep in mind you will have to run a sort acting test ester with it.

4. Cabasar dosage is dependent on the individual himself. So if you a prone to high prolactin yess I would say 0,5mg twice a week. If not it will do more harm then good.

Here's my advice on how to alter your cycle.
If you planing on using super test I would do it at the beginning of your cycle. I say this because of the long clearance time of it. If you run it during weeks 11-13 you will have to wait 54 days before commencing pct that's 9 days longer than deca. Also why are you switching between cyp and e mid cycle? Rather just stick to one ester.

This is how I would do it
Week 1-12= 600mg test e(use your supertest first then start e)per week.
Week 1-12= 350-400mg deca per week.
Week 1-4= 20-30mg dbol per day.
Week 12-18= Test prop 75-100mg eod(you can taper)
Week 12-16= Winny 30-40mg per day . or week 12-18= 60mg anavar per day

I would then proceed to use PCT number 3 from this site. (Wait 4 days after last prop shot to start pct)

You can use aromasin during cycle at 20mg per day if you are prone to estrogen sides if you are not just save it for your pct.

Proviron is to low at 20mg per day so if you want you run it I would bump is up to 50mg per day. Its not necessary during cycle though.

These are just my thoughts and how I would do it. I may be wrong on some things but I'm sure the other guys will correct me.

Cheers!

Also I gotta say I think your frozen intake is a bit high. Your body weight 73kg × 2,5= 182.2 grams of protein a day . That's how much you need I would max out at around 220 grams a day.

Just my ten cents!

Thanks a million Peewee! Highly appreciate the wise words! I will def take this into consideration )

Another Question.. I've heard about the use of HCG's (Pregnyl) while on course at 250iu E4d, will this significantly improve my gains and it is reccomended? If so, why??

Waiting period for prop is not 4 days. It's 4.5 days x 3 = 13.5 days.

Shit Ben is right hahaha shit broo got mixed up there dint know what I was thinking. Ben I see you've been reading up quite a lot! That's good Bro.

Hcg won't help gains Bro I don't think. Hcg is so that your testes continue producing natural testosterone. There is an article on here explaining.
Sorry in little hurry now to explain.

Ps. Nice Zyzz drawing!

Lol. Yeah I read a lot.

So many protocols to follow. It's easy to get things mixed up. Other than that, u was spot on. Cool bro

Another thing Jason. Arimidex cuts estrogen down for a period after taken. Estrogen will come back (estrogen rebound) after arimidex clears the system. Aromasin has no rebound after it clears. And is better for pct. it's just a brief explanation of my understanding of these two products.

I hate to be that guy, but 73 kgs at your height with 5 cycles under your belt? And training for 4 years...something is very wrong and AAS is not gonna fix that.

Fix your training and your diet before continuing to chase gains with AAS before you cause irreparable damage to yourself over something you could have achieved naturally.

If you were a purely natty trainee you should be at the minimum 80kgs by now at 10% bf.

Appreciate the concern Zaino but I admit I have been inconsistent during certain times of the year and thats when I lose alot, I have hit 85kg's while on course before but this was small courses such as dbols only and a test cycle .. I've never done Deca before but I have heard that it will give me the weight I seek. I will put it more consideration and wisdom in my training and diet too. Point Noted

OK good. Please post your training schedule so we can have a look.

Also, the macros you posted gives you 3344 cal and not 2850...

Okay so after consulting with a close friend of mine who has been using AAS for over a decade now and as u can expect, looks like he's larger than life, he gave me some advice and i decided to go with the following cycle instead, I would still appreciate any feedback and advice as I don't fully agree with absolutely everything he reccomended. Cycle is as follows
Cycle plan
Week 1 -10 Deca 350mg/week
Week 1-5 Test Cyp 500mg/week
Week 6-10 Test E 600mg/week
Week 1-4 dbol 40mg ED
Week 7-10 Winstrol 30mg ED
Week 7-16 Arimidex 0.5mg ED
Week 1-16 Proviron 40mg ED
Week 11-16 Equi 700mg/week
Week 11-16 Supertest 640mg/week
Week 16-20 Anavar 40mg ED
Caber available on hand and will take if bloods suggest so, will do bloods every 5 weeks
PCT ; (No 3)
1 x Clomid
1 x Nolva
1 x Aromasin
1 x Ovidrel
After a waiting period of 54 Days due to the Supertest

The reason for me choosing to stack Deca with Test Cyp and Then Test E is because I was adviced that the gains are worthy and its been tried and tested and approved... By a friend lol so I will stick with that

I intend to use Anavar in my waiting period before PCT'n as the supertest will still be active in my system

My Questions.. Is my doage and length of Deca too little and too short? Should I invest in another vial of Deca and up the dosage aswell as the length of the cycle to perhaps 12 weeks?
Should I change the use of Anavar to perhaps week 11-16?
Should I use Winstrol in conjunction with Anavar at the end of my Equi-Test cycle instead of the end of my Deca cycle?

@Zaino ... Will post my training shedule too when I get the time too.. I worked my macros and daily intake on a weight I'd like to weigh in at being 85-90kg's and not my current weight

Okay scrap the Equipoise ((( to my knowledge the long ester must be run at a 12-16 weeks cycle and only has full effect after 6 weeks therefore running it for 5-6 weeks would be absurd and just stupid, so I intend to not run Equi nor Supertest. Instead I intend to shoot just Test from weeks 11-16 with Anavar at 40mgED and Change my usage of winstrol in the closure of my deca cycle to rather stack with the Var and Test in weeks 11-16, this way my waiting period before Pct'n will be shorter too... My question which form of Test would be the most suitable for this? Prop or E? Or another ?