2nd Cycle Advice

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07 Jul 2016 09:25 #201346 by Pieman
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I've just come off my first cycle and have finished up PCT. I'm going to wait 3 months before the next, but want to start planning now already.

Stats:
28yo, 200lb, 6ft2" BF estimated at 20%.

Previous cycle:

WK 1-8: 300mg Test E / week
Wk 2-7: 60mg Anavar / day
Wk 10-11: 120mg Test Prop EOD
Wk 3- 11: 600iu HCG / week
PCT:
Wk 12: 100mg Clomid ED
WK 13: 40mg Nolva ED
Wk 14-16: 20mg Nolva ED

I ran adex at 0.5mg E3D throughout cycle, stopped before PCT.

I was in the gym 2x per day EOD and calorie intake was 1800 per day. Macro's: 20C / 30F / 50P. I dropped about 20lbs over the 11 weeks, but definitely put on some muscle as well.

I'm basically trying to do a recomp.

I don't know what to run for a next cycle, I still have quite a bit of fat, so need to cut that, but also don't want to add a bit of muscle. Again, think recomp.

Here's what I had in mind:

Wk 1-8: 120mg Test prop EOD
Wk 2-4: 50mg Tbol ED
Wk 4-8: 100mg Winstrol Injectable EOD
Wk 3-8: 600iu HCG / Week
PCT:
Wk 9-10: 100mg Clomid ED
Wk 10-11: 40mg Nolvadex ED
WK 12-16: 20mg Nolvadex ED

0.5mg Adex E3D throughout cycle stopping before PCT.

Any advice?

I've heard good things about 75mg Tren Ace EOD with 120mg Test Prop EOD, but I don't know if I'm ready for tren yet?

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07 Jul 2016 10:42 #201351 by OPTRON
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Use this 3 months wisely before your next cycle and hit the cardio and high intensity weights and see how much you can drop the fat %. Based on that, build and plan your next cycle. One can achieve a lot in three months with dedication and a spot on diet.

Sore today, strong tomorrow!!!
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07 Jul 2016 13:28 - 07 Jul 2016 13:29 #201357 by Eidolon
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Not so sure about your diet/macros dude - 20C/30F/50P does not add up to 1800 calories. What does your meals look like?
Last edit: 07 Jul 2016 13:29 by Eidolon.

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07 Jul 2016 20:48 #201368 by Latifier
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I think those macros are based on percentages so the diet is 20% Carb, 30% fat and 50% protein with the calories split among those.

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08 Jul 2016 00:22 #201370 by Eidolon
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Aah yes. That does make sense :D

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17 Jul 2016 13:09 #201611 by Jono
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Hi Pieman,

Lower your bf% to below 15%. Many pros would advice this. So use your 3 months to do that and adjust your dieet.
Prop 100 for 8 weeks is a lot of pinning. Use a longer ester.
Your current cycle you try to bulk and cut at the same time.

Your cycle:
Why not start with 40mg tbol week 1-4
Test week 1-10 (cyp250 or test E) if possible icrease to 12 weeks
Then bridge with something like anavar or winny to cut
Still use hcg but 500ui per week and maybe start at week5 only, check your sides.
You can also add proviron from start to end.
You will get a good build & power en then cut dowm on the last of your cycle.

Jono

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