Primobolan + test e cycle advise

Whatsup gents

I am new to the site so this will be my first post. I realize there is a recent, similar discussion to my cycle but mine is slightly different and I am looking for guidance on some issues I am not certain of.

Personal info:

Age- 24
Height- 1.90m
Weight- 93kgs
Bf%- 11%

Proposed cycle: All PGW products

Week 1-12: Primobolan depot @ 600mg/wk
Week 3-12: Test e @ 250mg/wk
Week 12-16: Anavar @ 40mgs/day

PCT: PCT protocol 2

I am looking for solid clean gains whilst aiming to minimize sides and suppression.

Questions:

1. I am looking for an easy recovery. Do you think the proposed ratio of testosterone to Primobolan is the best given what I am looking for? (Bearing in mind I don't mind spending extra for more primo).
2. Consideration of extending cycle to 14 weeks, with starting test during week 5-14 at the same dose. Do you feel this will have a significant impact on suppression and recovery?
3. Is HCG necessary during cycle given that it is included in PCT 2.
4. I know Primobolan needs a strict diet and large amounts of protein. But what about calories? Should I aim for maintenance calories or a slight surplus(200 or so).

Thanks in advance; I really appreciate it!

1) Recovery will be still be extensive for that time period.
2) Test from week 1
3) hCG will be required, probably not from the get go but from around week 4 to 6.
4) Aim for 500 calories over and use cardio as needed to burn any excess calories.

Hi bro!

Very similar to my current cycle. In week 7 and i feel great. Check Spazzz 2nd cycle log. I gained 8 kilos and have bouble the definition i had. I do have a very strict diet and trainng programme. I added proviron as well, and so far, its keeping the gyno biatch away

Good luck bro!

Thanks for the responses guys!

@ spazz
I see your only doing pct 1 for your cycle? Do you not think you need pct 2? Just wondering for my cycle also.

I will be starting on October or so, will give a review at some stage on this post!

I will probably do pct 2 bro! Im currently waiting for my aromasin. Will follow your post bro! Good luck

Whatsup guys

Still planning out my cycle and considering various things. Just wanted a little advise regarding a couple more things.

I am thinking of adding T-Bol to kick start for the first 25 days.
Other than this, the cycle is going to be the same.

I am miniking the suggested cycle on the intermediate cycle article, but obviously with it being shorter.

I just wanted some clarity:
- I will definitely run HCG as per pump's suggestion. Question is should I run this from wk1 or wk4 etc? And then also dosage: 500iu/wk? And if so, can I split this dose up into 2 shots per week?
- uncertain about length of HCG on cycle: should I run it from wk 4/1 as per above, until I bridge with the var in wk 12, or all the way until PCT?

Thanks a lot for your input.

Hey bro - your cycle is the same as mine. Check out my 2nd cycle. Oupa gave the clear on it, and im currently in week 10 and its awesome! Follow mine but u can leaveout the proviron. I do primo at 400mg per week. My balls were screwed in my 1st cycle so i started HCG from week 2 at 500iu per week split into 2x 250iu per week with my test e and primo pins. Im using HCG throughout my cycle, and will stop when i start pct

Good luck man!

Thanks a lot for the info. Good luck with the cycle, il give a review sometime!

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M1234 & lobo those details cannot be discussed on the forum for obvious reasons.

My apologies for this, I was unaware of that restriction.

Hey everyone

Just wanted to ask a quick question.

Started my cycle 10 days ago, already seen strength gains and weight gain. Decided to opt for 400mg test c per week and 500mg Primobolan.

The PGW primo pins like a dream, very smooth and not very much post injection pain.

I drew up 1ml test c, but forgot to sanitize the top of the vile before drawing. I realized this and put the test back. I am now undecided whether I can use this vial in the future? In my opinion it's not worth the very small risk of infection, but was wondering if anyone had any experience with this.

Will give a more detailed update of my cycle after about week 6.

Thanks in advance!

Should be fine, especially if you use a different needle to pin with. There's around 2% benzyl zlcohol in your gear as an anti-bacterial.

Perfect- thanks a lot!

Hey everyone- just thought I'd give an update on my cycle so far: 6 weeks in.

I was on a very intense cutting phase (natural) before the start of my cycle and unfortunately got sick. So my starting stats were.

Weight: 88kg
Bf: around 9%

Cycle is: 400mg test c per week
500mg primo per week

6 weeks in and my results have been fantastic. Weight is currently 95kg and body fat is maybe around 11%. Change weights every week.

Calorie intake has been pretty large: between 3400-3700 a day split between 5 meals.

PGW products are incredible and would recommend to anyone.

I just have one question: I haven't experienced any gyno symptoms as of yet. I have an AI on hand, I just want to confirm I must only use it if I see any symptoms of gyno?

Will give an update at the end of 12 weeks.

Glad you decided to up the Test. Yeah I think most will agree you can keep the AI until sides start, a bit of estrogen does good, so eliminating it could be bad for health.

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Thanks a lot!

Howzit boys!

Hope everyone is well.

Currently on week 9 of my cycle. Weight is still going up as well as strength, will definitely do a 14 week cycle next.

Current stats:
Weight- 97kgs
Bf- around 12/13%

I am on holiday at my parents house but have a little issue regarding HCG. I have an unmixed vial here but do not have access to a fridge that isn't communal, so I don't want to risk being caught as my parents obviously don't know.

So would advise be to just mix and use (am only home until New Years) or to just give HCG a skip and continue in the new year?

Appreciate the help!

M1234 wrote: Howzit boys!

Hope everyone is well.

Currently on week 9 of my cycle. Weight is still going up as well as strength, will definitely do a 14 week cycle next.

Current stats:
Weight- 97kgs
Bf- around 12/13%

I am on holiday at my parents house but have a little issue regarding HCG. I have an unmixed vial here but do not have access to a fridge that isn't communal, so I don't want to risk being caught as my parents obviously don't know.

So would advise be to just mix and use (am only home until New Years) or to just give HCG a skip and continue in the new year?

Appreciate the help!

If it's like time to use and you have more or willing to buy more, shoot up some, it will still be effective for a good few days and even have some effect afterwards. Is this for PCT or for your normal hCG shots ?

Thanks for the reply!

So this is for normal during cycle HCG shots, I was supposed to have a shot last week Sunday and this Wednesday but have skipped. So essentially have missed 1 week of shots. I'm thinking of just having a shot this coming Sunday (18th) and then bi weekly shots till I leave which is around the 30th. Just not sure how long it's good for at room temperature, should I maybe just start on the 23rd or so, or if I start on the 18th will it still be fine for 12 days?

Appreciate the help, thanks so much!

It isn't going to harm you to use it. I've felt effects for a good 2 weeks at room temperature before.

Perfect! Thanks so much pump!

Hi everyone

I hope everyone is enjoying the new year and the training!

I am on my PCT and forgot to take my 100mg of Clomid last night by mistake. I was wondering if I should take 150mg today and tomorrow, double up today or just extend my Clomid use by 1 day.

Appreciate the help!

Don't overthink it. Just extend by 1 day.

Progress reports??? Before & after pics?