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00pump wrote: No, it's is extremely toxic. I wouldn't put it in my body, put it that way. Use TBol / DBol / Winstrol / etc, to kick start. Do you need to kickstart? no, I personally think it's a absolute waste of time and all you doing is throwing your hormones around in your body. If you taking a long ester, start it and continue with it at the same dose, and stop, maybe ride out the time to PCT with a oral and then PCT... But I personally don't believe in kick starting.. What are you kickstarting ? Are you speeding up the long esters chance to respond? nope. All you doing in throwing in a quicker acting substance so you can start to get affects like better protein synthesis quicker.. If that is the case then why not start the cycle 3 weeks earlier? It really is a strange thing, everyone want to get things going so quick when they decide to use a steroid.. This is a sprint it's a marathon, slow and steady.. However I know majority of people will disagree with my thinking and say a kickstart is required.. Thing is I'm not telling you what they would do or saying what i'm advising is the best answer, but for me, slow and steady. But not putting 4/6 weeks of orals in the start of your cycle, you can with ease push the test for another 4 to 8 weeks at the end of a cycle and sustain less damage than putting a C17 (methyl group) through your liver.
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