What should be use to shape

I guys i need something to get me shaped i way 89kg would love to weigh 82-85kg. i had a hart operation in 2014 desember. im currently gyming...please help

Speak to your cardiologist, he can advise.

Out of curiosity what was the heart operation for?

And I agree with 00Pump, your heart has probably been through a lot of stress, so it is imperative that you consult with your cardiologist.

And please don't jump on gear too soon, the last thing we all need is another steroid scare story on news24.

Its a wise answer but how do i go about to ask my cardiologists about me wanting to use steroids?
It was a generic thing i was born with the hole in my heart. I am 31

Ok but you don't need steroids to achieve the goal you put above, and nor would I advise it. What you need is good foods, advice from your Cardiologist about how hard you can push your heart for what length of time, how high you can ramp it, also how long you allowed to do that for and have a bit of patience and you should achieve that goal in a month or so.

Joker what you want to achieve can be done without gear. Solid diet and consistency with a well structured training program and patience you can hit it easily.

What Pump meant was talking to your cardiologist about training: cardiovascular training and weight training and the possible implications it might hold for you as well as the diet you intend to follow. Go have a chat with him about that and about you possibly using gear in the future and hear what he says.

Apologies Pump did not realise you were replying.

HI Joker!

Add your stats: Height, age, BF%

Having a Heart opp sounds serious... Leaving you with only the option to this with proper diet and exercise. Which is not a bad option at all! Most (If not all) fat burners contain a lot of stimulants, that also increases your heart rate, and really does not work any miracles. Its all Diet.

Break your target down. Like: you want to lose 6kg in 3 months. Thats 2kg a month. Make it realistic, put your heart into it, and you will achieve it!

Good luck!

Hey All...

Wanna say thanks for all the advice.
Will have a chat with my cardiologist and take it from there...the reason why i wanted to start getting it with roids is i used to be a kickboxer but after the hart op i may not compete in any contact sport so i want to gym and stay in shape

Bruh if that's you in your avatar,change it immediately

Joker85 wrote: Hey All...

Wanna say thanks for all the advice.
Will have a chat with my cardiologist and take it from there...the reason why i wanted to start getting it with roids is i used to be a kickboxer but after the hart op i may not compete in any contact sport so i want to gym and stay in shape

You do not need steroids to stay in shape.

Hard work and dedication and a good diet will be a good starting point. You certainly need to learn how to train properly and eat correctly before you can consider doing a steroid cycle.

Also as stated above, if you ever decide you want to try some "fat burners" def speak to your cardiologist as majority (if not all of them?) are stimulants and they will affect your heart rate. Clen, Yohimbine, FFF, Phedra cut, ECA etc. etc. etc.
Also pre-workouts I believe contain various stimulants to speak to your cardiologist about these too.
Rather be safe than sorry, I have no clue how strong your heart is and your heart may already be under strain after taking some stimulants and then you lifting some weights or doing some cardio on top of that might be a bit too much for your heart to handle.

So just becareful and make sure you understand exactly what you are able to do safely and so forth.

Once you have all of this info feel free to come back, share some of the info with us and some of your short term and long term goals and perhaps we can help you out. A good gym routine and diet will get you far, I feel as if these two things are the two things which a lot of people overlook and which lead to minimal gains and unhappy people at the gym. Especially the "hard gainers", of which I use to classify myself as.

Why do i need to change it?

Joker85 wrote: Why do i need to change it?

well if you are going to be busy with any banned substances you don't want to be advertising your face for the world to see who you are

You don't need any gear and with a heart condition you shouldn't be looking at fat burners that contain stimulants.

Your health condition limits your choices but guess what. . .you can still lose fat and build muscle if you sort your diet out.