AI not effectively reducing Estrodial

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22 Dec 2016 08:16 #205889 by Morrgear
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Hi All,
I am having a strange scenario which I cannot explain. Firstly I am currently on about 900mg of SuperTest per week and 600 of Primo (also PGW). I went through a bulking phase and put on some good muscle but also more BF than I had hoped. Went from about 12-15%. For the last four weeks I have been cutting running a calorie deficit of about 700 per day with a single day refeed at about 300 cal over maintenance. Weight and BF starting coming off nicely but stalled. I had bloods done and saw my E2 was on the high side 200 with the reference range top end at 160. I was taking 40mg of Aromasin p/d which was already on the high side. I decided to smash the Escorial and added in 2mg of Letro per day - again plenty - should have smashed the estradiol. I just had bloods after 2 weeks of this and my estradiol is even higher at 236 and BF has stalled at 12% on 1700 cal per day (81kg body Weight down from 87kg) at 170cm. The AI's are LP so trusted quality. Does anyone have any ideas? Don't really want to increase the AI. Should I reduce the test possibly. Switch to Arimidex? Not mix both Aromasin and letro? Or be patient as I understand Letro can take 60 days to reach stable blood levels. In the past just 0.3mg of Letro p/d smashed my estradiol below the low end of the reference range. Pretty much at a loss I.t.o what to do next.

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22 Dec 2016 11:34 #205890 by Rooi Bul 86
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Would like to see what Pump and Oupa say about your situation.

15%Body Fat and 900mg test a week is more than likely the culprit as there is a lot of body fat so your body fat high tens your number of Aromatase Enzymes. 640mg Supertest a week is plenty so drop to that and split is Monday and Thursday. Just be Patient with the Letro chances are that once that 2mg kikcs in you are going to feel like shit. .25-.5 is plentu with Letrozole

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22 Dec 2016 11:45 #205891 by Morrgear
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Just to clarify BF was 15% now is down to 12%. I recon I will cut the dosing as suggested. Thanks

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22 Dec 2016 19:39 - 23 Dec 2016 06:23 #205895 by 00pump
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I actually was writing a post and then got pulled away. Rooi Bull is correct, WAY to much AI's. Slow down, your estrogen isn't way out of control, it's a little high. If you cut your calories to low you not going to lose. You looking in the wrong direction for your bodyfat loss.

Drop the Letro to the highest 0.5mg, like Rooi said, when it kicks in you going to experience some insane sides, to the point that you won't be able to stand as your joints will be so dry your knees are going to feel like they will snap if you you put pressure on them, and yes stop the Aromasin for now.

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