Cutting cycle

Please assist

Currently at 100 kg have been training 15 years and diet is very clean and on point . Cheat meal once a week.
Body fat 15%
Currently using 2 x Anavar in morning and 1x anavar before training
1 x Clen tab in morning and half at mid day. 2 days on 2 days off.Have high blood pressure so reducing to only one a day .
2 x proviron tabs before bed

2395 cal per day

My Question can i ad Test prop maybe into the mix for strenght and extra test and what dosage would you suggest. Please aslso advise if i need to change a few things ?

How old are you.

- What strength is the Anavar.
: Anavar must be taken a set times, eg taking it before gym is not going to give you more strength in the gym, take it morning, lunchtime and evening.

You want to keep you blood levels as stable as possible.

You could add prop but it will push up your blood pressure further.

Very bad cycle structure, clearly you don't have allot of knowledge in this field and probably relying on very had advice from 'big guys' who 'know' what they doing but clearly don't.

I would make sure I take the anavar as correctly timed intervals in the day and continue for 6 to 8 weeks, go to PCT and then have 3 months off and try this again with a much smarter plan. The biggest thing is the BP so you will need an AI on hand, you will need to run a low dose, maybe longer than normal to maximize the effectiveness, so you gain slowly but steady without the risk of pushing your BP to dangerous levels. Even the Anavar will raise your BP, but not nearly as much as test or many other compounds.

Clen with high blood pressure is a bad idea dude!

Thanks guys iam 38 years old. Will take Anavar as per your suggestion morning, midday and night. And proviron before bed.
Anavar is 10 mg per tab. I will leave the Clen can feel not good on BP
I do take chromium and ALA supplement to stabilize blood sugar levels.

Thanks for the advice any other options will be appreciated

Travelller101 wrote: Thanks guys iam 38 years old. Will take Anavar as per your suggestion morning, midday and night. And proviron before bed.
Anavar is 10 mg per tab. I will leave the Clen can feel not good on BP
I do take chromium and ALA supplement to stabilize blood sugar levels.

Thanks for the advice any other options will be appreciated

I would suggest taking 2x 10mg Morning, Lunch and Evening. 30mg is borderline, non effective. Proviron is also being run at a very low dose, increase to at least 10mg morning lunch and evening.

Thanks 00pump for the advise. I have been training a long time but mostly natural this would be my 4 time. So yes you right dont have a vast understanding of cycling but at least there are guys like you assisting and for that i say thanks. When and what would you look at as pct and dosaged? And the anavar and Proviron you would say will be effective enough?

Thanks for your help means alot

00pump wrote:

Travelller101 wrote: Thanks guys iam 38 years old. Will take Anavar as per your suggestion morning, midday and night. And proviron before bed.
Anavar is 10 mg per tab. I will leave the Clen can feel not good on BP
I do take chromium and ALA supplement to stabilize blood sugar levels.

Thanks for the advice any other options will be appreciated

I would suggest taking 2x 10mg Morning, Lunch and Evening. 30mg is borderline, non effective. Proviron is also being run at a very low dose, increase to at least 10mg morning lunch and evening.

Sorry and would the proviron be effective as a Ai?

And last question how would you have done the cycle after i take 3 months break ?


And just the pct use

Thanks

Hi, here's my 2 cents:

1.Come off all drugs and get blood pressure under control.

2. Get as lean as possible naturally. No stimulants, just clean food and hard training. Don't worry about losing size

Do this for 2 to 3 months

After that here is my suggestion for a cycle:

75-100mg Test Prop eod (every other day)
30mg of Anavar to start with spread evenly throughout the day

If you need more anavar as you're a big guy then bump up to 40mg after 2 weeks

10-12 weeks

Note: Anavar is extremely bad on lipids. Even at 20mg it can tank your HDL and skyrocket your LDL. Couple that with high blood pressure and you are taking a big risk

Note 2: I personally have never needed to use more than 40mg of Var (30 being my sweet spot). On this dose my body is hard, defined, vascular and the pumps are unreal. Coupled with 250-400mg test (depending on your size) you'll be lean, full, strong and feel great

Note 3:
I'm smaller than you- 93kgs, 11%bf (comfortable maintenance bf) 6'1".

Good luck brother. Make sure you monitor that BP!!!

Proviron is not an Aromatise Inhibitor. You can take it along-side your cycle to "boost" it's effectiveness.

Travelller101 wrote:

00pump wrote:

Travelller101 wrote: Thanks guys iam 38 years old. Will take Anavar as per your suggestion morning, midday and night. And proviron before bed.
Anavar is 10 mg per tab. I will leave the Clen can feel not good on BP
I do take chromium and ALA supplement to stabilize blood sugar levels.

Thanks for the advice any other options will be appreciated

I would suggest taking 2x 10mg Morning, Lunch and Evening. 30mg is borderline, non effective. Proviron is also being run at a very low dose, increase to at least 10mg morning lunch and evening.

Sorry and would the proviron be effective as a Ai?

And last question how would you have done the cycle after i take 3 months break ?


And just the pct use

Thanks

Thanks appreciate my blood pressure is 132/77 with a pulse off 53 so its in check at least

So will just finished what i have now and go off for 2 months and then do what u suggest

Thanks

Travelller101 wrote:

Travelller101 wrote:

00pump wrote:

Travelller101 wrote: Thanks guys iam 38 years old. Will take Anavar as per your suggestion morning, midday and night. And proviron before bed.
Anavar is 10 mg per tab. I will leave the Clen can feel not good on BP
I do take chromium and ALA supplement to stabilize blood sugar levels.

Thanks for the advice any other options will be appreciated

I would suggest taking 2x 10mg Morning, Lunch and Evening. 30mg is borderline, non effective. Proviron is also being run at a very low dose, increase to at least 10mg morning lunch and evening.

Sorry and would the proviron be effective as a Ai?

And last question how would you have done the cycle after i take 3 months break ?



And just the pct use

Thanks

Thanks appreciate my blood pressure is 132/77 with a pulse off 53 so its in check at least

So will just finished what i have now and go off for 2 months and then do what u suggest

Or can i ad the test prop now as my bp is no issue now after dropping the clen?

Fleshgod wrote: Hi, here's my 2 cents:

1.Come off all drugs and get blood pressure under control.

2. Get as lean as possible naturally. No stimulants, just clean food and hard training. Don't worry about losing size

Do this for 2 to 3 months

After that here is my suggestion for a cycle:

75-100mg Test Prop eod (every other day)
30mg of Anavar to start with spread evenly throughout the day

If you need more anavar as you're a big guy then bump up to 40mg after 2 weeks

10-12 weeks

Note: Anavar is extremely bad on lipids. Even at 20mg it can tank your HDL and skyrocket your LDL. Couple that with high blood pressure and you are taking a big risk

Note 2: I personally have never needed to use more than 40mg of Var (30 being my sweet spot). On this dose my body is hard, defined, vascular and the pumps are unreal. Coupled with 250-400mg test (depending on your size) you'll be lean, full, strong and feel great

Note 3:
I'm smaller than you- 93kgs, 11%bf (comfortable maintenance bf) 6'1".

Good luck brother. Make sure you monitor that BP!!!

Thanks Fleshgod really appreciatte advise has been working well and blood pressure 132/76 so going well