Help for friend's cycle

Hey guys,
I know how the title sounds,but my friend really wouldn't join the forum. He's asked me to help design him a cycle with the compounds he's got so I thought I'd get your guys opinions.

Compounds we dealing with:
Test Prop
Test Cyp
Tren Ace
NPP
(All are EU Pharm)

He's wanting to get a bit bigger and get lean (yeah I know... everyone's goal :lol:)

He's looking at around 12-16 weeks for the cycle. I was thinking maybe do prop and NPP in the beginning and then switch to cyp with tren. Then doing a bridge+PCT.

Any help is appreciated, thanks guys.

Please give some info on your friend like stats, gym knowledge, cycle history, diet and level of AAS knowledge.

He's around 85-90kg, like 185cm. 19 years old. He's around 15% BF. I've helped him out diet wise. I know he's too young but he's already done lots of shit. I believe he's done Clen, Winny,Test, deca and Anapolan that I'm aware of. He's gonna do this regardless,so I thought that I could at least prevent him from doing it completely wrong. And even though I do have some AAS knowledge, I don't have any personal experience.

THANKS PYRO

PumpSeeker you did the right thing to ask here and respect to you for being a true bro. I hope my advice helps as I am sympathetic to your question. The dude is too young for steroids. It doesn't matter if he's used before because he will do more damage if he continues. I truly understand how you feel and why you would rather stick by him if he's going to make a bad decision, and because you are a good friend you want to mitigate disaster. He might go ahead because fuck reason 'I do what I want' but remember he will learn too. Sometimes the only way is the hard way. By the way oftentimes people will surprise you how open-minded they can be if you approach it right. If I were you I would show him these messages and persuade him to first do his homework and he doesn't need an account to read the articles and stickies. He will have a much better go of things. At the very least if he cycles then he will know how to maximise gains and minimise side effects with a good PCT to minimise muscle loss post cycle depression.

In summary it's a kak kak kak kak fokken stupid ignorant idea but knowledge will help him if he is open. I am here for your or his questions.

Thanks for that Pyro, I will try persuade him... To my knowledge, he does cycle but takes the very minimal time off. :dry: I'll just have to try to sway him in the better directions regarding his use.

Thanks

When I first read Tren and NNP I was like, "if this dude is on this level, he should be clued up on how to run those."

But then I read 19 years, fuuuu mate. Take it easy. I mean read what IronKobra got right in 2 years of absolute minimal variety and think about what your friend is willing to subject himself to (albeit probably unknowing by the sound of it).

I guess he needs to ask himself where he wants to go with it, does he want to compete /go pro / model? Is he a rec user like most of us? The reply you're going to get if he's casual will not vary much between the members here.

That said, the fact that he's in so deep already, pushes me to be lenient. I'll reserve further opinion until you get back to us PumpSeeker.

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Sorry, but I can't help to think that he is messing with his health. Unless like Furk mentioned, he is preparing to become a professional or something, I feel it is wrong to try and advise him if his mindset is that he is going to do it anyway with or without guidance...

Maybe SARMs. But I would say he must wait till he is 22

Haha, he's done Anaps, Winstrol and Test, SARMs are going to feel like a downgrade. Nie dat dit ń slegte voorstel is nie hoor!

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Hey guys,

Yeah I agree it shouldn't be something to casually use like supplements. Imagine there's an unstoppable train heading for an explosives factory... I'm just trying to guide it into the pillow factory next door.
I think he's wanting to compete down the line (even though his cycle suggests he's competing this year :lol: )
@furk Yeah I read IK's thread and very impressive.

PumpSeeker wrote: He's looking at around 12-16 weeks for the cycle. I was thinking maybe do prop and NPP in the beginning and then switch to cyp with tren. Then doing a bridge+PCT.

fuckit dude :dry: and he is only 19, kak cycle design.