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Hi Guys
Been researching for a bit and think I have enough info to finally get involved.
I have been training for the past 5 years and have hit that plateu. Bf is around 15%, current bodyweight 76.5kg. I have tried test boosters which has shown min results thus far. Have a solid training program with diet 90-95% there.
Have been chatting to a supplier but am aware that he might not know all significant details so am coming to you experienced guys for some advice. He recommends as a first cycle Clen + Venom + Heat (will sort out the PCT once I have the cycle details sorted). Goal is to pack on muscle and reduce bf to around 10-12%.

Clen + Venom + Heat are all fat loss products and they shouldn't be used together at the same time. They also do not need PCT afterwards.

MB wrote: Hi Guys

He recommends as a first cycle Clen + Venom + Heat (will sort out the PCT once I have the cycle details sorted). Goal is to pack on muscle and reduce bf to around 10-12%.

:ohmy: :blink: just reading that makes my heart nearly stop, the supplier clearly doesn't know what he is talking about and doesn't want recurring business

That cycle with the goal to pack on some muscle?

Bud, if you've been training for 5 years, tried test boosters, have a solid training program and a 95% in-check diet, then you are still only 78kg with 15% body-fat, then you are doing something wrong.

You seriously have to rethink your cycle!!

Why not have a look at the sample cycles? Maybe the beginner cycle with a fat loss product with it...?

OPTRON wrote: That cycle with the goal to pack on some muscle?

Bud, if you've been training for 5 years, tried test boosters, have a solid training program and a 95% in-check diet, then you are still only 78kg with 15% body-fat, then you are doing something wrong.

You seriously have to rethink your cycle!!

Why not have a look at the sample cycles? Maybe the beginner cycle with a fat loss product with it...?

this advice yes... but after some more educating first.

read, read and read a bit more through the articles. when you are done with that just read it all 2 more times.
trust me once you are done you will have more questions and thereafter you will feel confident enough to klap a cycle