Cycle advise (Shredding)

Hi Guys

I'm currently planning a cycle which will start end of march. I see it more of a shredding and maintaining lean muscle mass.

I'm no steroid god :whistle: so keeping it to what I've read up on what I've used before :dry:

I'll be following the PCT3 rule from here

screenshot of my cycle below



Just need some advise on the following:

1. can I run clen on this cycle for fat burning 2 week on 2 week off protocol, if I can when will it be best to throw in this cycle

2. Can I use an inject-able for bridging (if so whats usually recommended and what dosage)

Stats:

92kgs
BF +- 12%
Cal intake 3k per day

Car 30%
Pro 40%
Fat 20%

Every wednesday is Higher carbs day


5 meals excluding wake and bedtime shakes


Not sure if i'm missing any more info here that you guys might need

*ps the Tren 9-16 is Tren E not ace

Let me know

Thanks

Few things I picked up:

Test Enan Week 1-8: Why eod? Only need 2 x per week. Look at 500mg per week.

Equi Week 1-8: Why eod? Only need 1/2 per week. And why only 8 weeks and dose a bit low. Rather look at 600mg per week.

Proviron: You should take every day.

Short esters from week 9 onwards is fine eod.

Prop and whinny can be part of bridge.

Personally, I dont like using Whinny longer than 4 weeks at a time.

I cant comment on your tren usage, never cycled it before.

I would add HCG on cycle from week 3 onwards @ 250iu 2xper week.

Goodluck and enjoy!!

OPTRON wrote: Few things I picked up:

Test Enan Week 1-8: Why eod? Only need 2 x per week. Look at 500mg per week.

Equi Week 1-8: Why eod? Only need 1/2 per week. And why only 8 weeks and dose a bit low. Rather look at 600mg per week.

sorry should of changed that its actually per week not EOD, so total 2 shots per week

Test E 250mg per week

EQ 200mg Per week

The Doses are rather off and the duration of each compound

How many cycles have you done ?
How old are you ?
Have you used tren before ?
I think the biggest thing that got me was 100mg of winstrol everyday for for the last 2 weeks that's an insane dose

Lex wrote: The Doses are rather off and the duration of each compound

How many cycles have you done ?
How old are you ?
Have you used tren before ?
I think the biggest thing that got me was 100mg of winstrol everyday for for the last 2 weeks that's an insane dose

Age 41

been training 3 years now, into my 4th

only started seriously pinning sous in my 2nd year (myself)

1st year cycle was a mixture of everything - (duknek mate telling run this and that) totally uneducated but well guided by an old school BB

dbols, sust, EQ , Test E, Test C, tren ace and E shots here an there administered by my mate

Got bigger and leaner went from 80kgs BF 25% to around 88kgs BF 12-14%

2nd year ran 16 week cycle to bulk, after researching and knowledging myself the fuck up did I learn about proper cycle with PCT and why and how things should be run

1-16 Sust 1000mg/week
1-14 Deca 500mg/week
1-6 Anapolin 50mg/ed
11-16 tbols 50mg/ed

adex 1 tab/eod
proviron 1 tab/eod

PCT HCG 5000IU - one big shot to kick start the system not split up in 250iu shots (yes ok I've now learnt the proper way to bring in after joining the forum)

Clomid 10 days
Nolv 30 days

Went from 88kgs to 92kgs bodyfat sitting constant at 10-12%, got duk and maintained my size, lean but not shredded

Goal is to drop down to 90kgs and single digits BF (8-10%) less if possible (hoping the clen can do that)

Your diet and cardio is gonna be the main attribute to shredding down, I know many guys on great diets and low doses of gear and still come out harder and leaner than guys running hectic doses with shit diets.

Rather try something like this

Week 1-10
Equi 350mg a week
Test C 500mg a week
Arimidex 0.5mg every other day (IF ESTROGEN SIDE AFFECTS OCCUR)
Proviron 40mg ed
( I would front load with 40mg of tbol)

Week 11-16
Tren Ace 240mg a week
Test prop 300mg a week
Arimidex 0.5mg EOD (IF ESTROGEN SIDE AFFECTS OCCUR)
Proviron 40mg ED

Week 14-17
Winstrol 40-50mg ED

Start HCG from week 3. 250ius 2X a week
You can cycle Clen with yohimbine or an ECA

Start HCG from week 3. 250ius 2X a week
You can cycle Clen with yohimbine or an ECA

just 1x 5000iu vial? split up over week 3-13?

In what part of the cycle will I introduce the clen? should I go for Clen HCL or something like CYT3

or perhaps the ciccone

CY Combo Injection

cicconepharma.com/product/fat-burners/cy-combo-injection/

proviron intake 1 tab in the morning 1 before bedtime?

I would introduce clen around week 11 at a low dose, I'm not a fan of CYT3 I would rather take them separately so I can dose them according to how I like.

No hcg from week 3-17

All you need to get ripped like fuck is test P & tren A with winstrol or anavar. T3 40mg and a strict diet. You actually dont even need the T3.

Oupa wrote: All you need to get ripped like fuck is test P & tren A with winstrol or anavar. T3 40mg and a strict diet. You actually dont even need the T3.

Thanks oom, so I'm pretty on par for the course then

one question been thiniking of running trestelone as a bridge or will it not be necessary seen i'll be adding the HCG from week 3-17 as recommended by Lex?

So started my cycle yesterday and tried my first shot in the ventroglute, feeling some real PIP today, not 100% sure I hit the right spot

anyone care to share some advice on this?

I'm rather going to stick to where I usually pin

Glutes, Quads and delts

tweaked wrote: So started my cycle yesterday and tried my first shot in the ventroglute, feeling some real PIP today, not 100% sure I hit the right spot

anyone care to share some advice on this?

I'm rather going to stick to where I usually pin

Glutes, Quads and delts

If it's a virgin muscle it will hurt more usually.
You'll get more pip if the needle was moving a lot or if you inject a lot of gear/high concentration. I know some people get pip from supertest.

Tweaked what you running now the Test E and Eq?

Test E hurts in Virgin Muscle. Heat up your oil in hot water and pin slow

@rooi The test E,

Took the advise from the articles to rather try the ventro as its easier to reach and less chance of hitting a blood vessel, so yes virgin muscle

Thanks, will rather do glute or quads next on thursday with the EQ

Try Vent Flute again after a few weeks justake sure you keep the needle still don't move it around or press it down as ju push the plunger. I prefer quads for the ease of reach and being able to pin with both hands. On quads only use the outer sweep

EQ shot tomorrow, will do the quad instead

tweaked wrote: Hi Guys

I'm currently planning a cycle which will start end of march. I see it more of a shredding and maintaining lean muscle mass.

I'm no steroid god :whistle: so keeping it to what I've read up on what I've used before :dry:

I'll be following the PCT3 rule from here

screenshot of my cycle below

Just need some advise on the following:

1. can I run clen on this cycle for fat burning 2 week on 2 week off protocol, if I can when will it be best to throw in this cycle

2. Can I use an inject-able for bridging (if so whats usually recommended and what dosage)

Stats:

92kgs
BF +- 12%
Cal intake 3k per day

Car 30%
Pro 40%
Fat 20%

Every wednesday is Higher carbs day


5 meals excluding wake and bedtime shakes


Not sure if i'm missing any more info here that you guys might need

*ps the Tren 9-16 is Tren E not ace

Let me know

Thanks

looking at this, i see a few things out of place for me personally, i think your equi dose and test dosing of 400mg eq and 500mg of test is perfect per week, but the arimadex might be on the slightly high side, rather use a lower dosing of 0.5mg eod to start and then move up to 1mg IF needed, 1mg eod is quite high and can also drop estrogen levels too low on a cycle which can give you sore joints and lack of gains, thats from personal experience but not everyone is the same, how ever i am the type of person that likes to use less than using more.


you say that your tren is actually enanthate not acetate? i would switch that to acetate, also you can get away with a lower test dosing and i would add in masteron prop, so 100mg of acetate, 100mg prop, and 100mg masteron prop 3x a week would be spot on for your cycle.

as oupa says you can add in t3, but i would only add in t3 once your calories go lower and your diet stops working, i would do the same with the clen and yohimbine, rather add those in LATER than from the start as you would not know which is working, the diet or the chemicals.

also that is quite a long time to be running winstrol with that high a dose of arimadex, the joints are going to take a beating in this case if you ask me, i would rather see you using anavar over winstrol in a cutting cycle, and i wouldnt suggest going over 50mg daily unless you are prepping for a show.

those are just my opinions, each to their own