First Cycle

Hi Guys

I am two weeks into my first cycle. My cycle consists of Test E (500mg) once a week and Tbol 60mg day. 30mg in the morning and 30mg in the evening. i also take 1/2 an Adex every 2nd day.

I have put on 4kgs thus far and a noticeable difference in my arms and shoulders.

I unfortunately got a mix of both the Tbol and the Test E. The first set was OralTec Tbol and OralTec Test E (300mg /ml). I have completed the OralTec Tbol during week 1 and put on 3 Kgs. I still have enough Test E until week 6.

The second set I got is Medix Pharma Tbol and Keifie Test E (250mg/ml). I will start the Keifie Test at week 7 till 12.

I have two questions.
1. How good are the products I have?
2. I get a lump on my injection site (glutes) thats not visible but can be felt and about the size of 1/2 my palm. It goes away in just under a week. Is this normal?

Hi mate, congrats on your progress so far.

RadRage wrote: I am two weeks into my first cycle. My cycle consists of Test E (500mg) once a week and Tbol 60mg day. 30mg in the morning and 30mg in the evening. i also take 1/2 an Adex every 2nd day.

Try split the Test in 2 shots per week, or just do every 4 days like I do.

RadRage wrote: 2. I get a lump on my injection site (glutes) thats not visible but can be felt and about the size of 1/2 my palm. It goes away in just under a week. Is this normal?

I got the same with Prop. Hurt to the point where I walked funny and avoided social activities. It could be something like a preservative in the oil. As I understand Prop and Enanth are the most common for this to occur. What I did do alleviate pain was the following:
1. Leave the vial in warm water (obviously don't fully immerse)
2. Take warm shower and massage the planned pin site.
3. Pin gear.
4. Massage the pin site for a couple of minutes.

Of course this won't help much if you are allergic to something in the gear (which is possible).

Furk wrote: Hi mate, congrats on your progress so far.

RadRage wrote: I am two weeks into my first cycle. My cycle consists of Test E (500mg) once a week and Tbol 60mg day. 30mg in the morning and 30mg in the evening. i also take 1/2 an Adex every 2nd day.

Try split the Test in 2 shots per week, or just do every 4 days like I do.

RadRage wrote: 2. I get a lump on my injection site (glutes) thats not visible but can be felt and about the size of 1/2 my palm. It goes away in just under a week. Is this normal?

I got the same with Prop. Hurt to the point where I walked funny and avoided social activities. It could be something like a preservative in the oil. As I understand Prop and Enanth are the most common for this to occur. What I did do alleviate pain was the following:
1. Leave the vial in warm water (obviously don't fully immerse)
2. Take warm shower and massage the planned pin site.
3. Pin gear.
4. Massage the pin site for a couple of minutes.

Of course this won't help much if you are allergic to something in the gear (which is possible).

definitely give this a try, and also are you only injecting glutes? even tho you arnt injecting very often it does help to rotate sites, give your quads a go, for me personally its alot easier than glutes and then just do one week glutes one week quads

Many thanks Funk and AestheticsBruh. I will definitely try as suggested.

Any comments on the products I have?

make sure you're going deep, also do as bruh suggests, rotate your sites.

I do glutes and quads, like you changing your tire and tightening the nuts, do it diagonally of each other of every shot

top right(glute) bottom left (quad) and so on

I've had a couple of balls from shitty carrier oil(BB) in juice (sustaplex), really bad and the only thing that sorted it out is a shot of voltaren into that spot

As for products... can't comment on medix but keifei is good to go

Hi Guys

Just taught of providing a quick update.

Yesterday was my day to pin. Took all the advise and did as below,

1. Had a hot shower
2. Sat on a hot water bottle for a while.
3. Warmed up 2 ampules of Keifie Test E (this was a change from the usual Oraltec Test E)
4. Pinned
5. Massaged for a while.

The results was great. Firstly it was almost painless and there is no lumps today.

Thanks for all the advise guys. Will keep you updated with my progress.

Well done

Just an update on my progress,

Administered my last injection for this cycle on Wednesday last week. Really happy with the results. My arms fit nicely into my XL T Shirts . I gained 5 Kgs while loosing 4 inches on the waist.

With regards to the products,

Testosterone E: I started with Oral Tech for six weeks and Keifie for six weeks. I prefer Keifie. Just felt it easier to pin.
TBol : I used Oral Tech and Medix Pharma. I did not like Medix. I got great pumps with it but felt stronger on Oral Tech.

I will start my PCT next Thursday.

My PCT plan looks like this.

Week 1: Clomid 100mg /day
Tamoxifen 20mg / day

Week 2: Clomid 100mg /day
Tamoxifen 20mg / day

Week 3: Clomid 50mg /day
Tamoxifen 20mg / day

Week 4: Clomid 50mg /day
Tamoxifen 20mg / day

Any advice on the PCT will be greatly appreciated.

+1 on the achievement.I suggest you follow pct 2 in the article's section to be safe

Many thanks Jono.

Will do.
Is the HCG necessary? For some strange reason I did not have much testicular shrinkage and therefore did not procure HCG. If you advise that it is necessary, then I still have time to procure it and will most definitely do.

I had a good cycle and really want my PCT to go smoothly. Really appreciate your advice.

It's a bit too late to run HCG if you are already at around PCT time, because it's used to get your balls big and working towards the end of your cycle so PCT goes smoother. One big tip I see nobody said about helping post injection pain, with me, it helped a lot to just inject slower, and as funny as it is, warming the area after injection with a hairdryer was magical for me

Kak storie.

If he did not use it on cycle he can use it like in PCT 2

Thanks guys. Just ordered HCG. I do not want to take any chances with recovery. I will follow PCT2.