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Ja your health is a real concern bro, if i were you i would stop all bodybuilding related practises immediately.

The protein in your diet should also be brought to normal levels as even protein can make your kidneys work harder and take more strain at 1 gram/pound of bodyweight and those are healthy ones, clearly if you have blood in your urine then yours are def damaged.

Get that hyper tension treated asap as that puts the kidneys under the greatest strain, bp is a silent killer you got to get that under control first, thats prob why the docs are stressing about it.

Treat your problem from all angles , holistically, encompass all areas, natural and conventional for the best results, but seriously bra you not in a good way.

I just got to name a few pros, FLEX WHEELER, TOM PRINCE,DON LONG, MIKE MENTZER all these guys had kidney failure and you heading the same route, dialysis.

Kidney health is primary, liver bounces back and can even totally regenerate, only organ in body that can do that.

Buddy sort yourself out , forget about juice etc until you are 100% even then you might have a genetic weakness down there so you will have to see.

NOt good news but unfortunately for you the reality bra, hey life is more important then 10kgs of ripped mass in your youth, be sensible dont take chances and pussy foot around.

Myo!

F@K! Gyno, enlarged prostate, liver + kidney problems and only 27. Dude I'm glad I'm not in your shoes but its actually really good that you're posting this coz newbies don't realise that this stuff does happen from roids if you aren't careful. With your current problems you should never touch tren again and keep away from 17aa orals. Good luck anyway, I hope you sort your health out.

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Trust me I have.... but I am getting nowhere with them, its like they refuse to hear what I say... they want to treat hypertention to see if the blood goes away... you know how long that process takes?

I finally took it into my own hands to go the natrual doctor and he hears what i have to say, he has worked with other bodybuilders and haven great success.

I just need to get my body on track, it just upsets me to think i can do a course again...

but the comment you cant grow when you dead is so true... I believe the hypertension is the cause of the left side of my heart to be enlarged.... hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.............. I live such a healthy life and just do a bit of gear...

Bud, we are all different and react to different doses. Thing is to know the warning signs and have gathered enough knowledge to know what to do or who to ask if things go wrong. As for PCT, well, you will need a couple. One for your kidneys, one for your testes, one for your prostate and whatever else is wrong. I would do a blood panel, get that analyzed and take it from there. If you are really in a bind, mail me and will see if I can put you onto someone who can help you medically and get you sorted. ONLY IF YOU IN A BIND, I will have to call in a favour, so pls respect that.

Shoe

I really appreciate all the support, ye I will say I’m now kind of experiencing urtacaria which is making my training next to impossible tried a shoulder session yesterday, my skin was burring so bad.... blah...

But interesting guys, if you wondering why you get that shortness of breath when you on tren, put some of your blood under a microscope, you will see that all red blood cells are completely bound together in 1 long strand, no wonder there is no place for oxygen in there.

I think the skin is related to my blood pressure being high the natural guy told me I’m 'burning up' inside, I also was actually told that when competing in London and my body packed up and I went for acupuncture to help try keep my skin under wraps or else the welts come up... small little red bumps all over my body, feels like fire, not a pleasant site, felt like killing anyone near me... that eased up for around a year now coming back....

You know what sucks when you have a dream for something and you sacrifice everything for that dream then this happens... I NEVER DRINK, I don't smoke, I don't even sometimes have my cheat meal a day, every day I spend all my time researching more stuff about nutrition, there is not 1 side affect I have not read about gear and I knew taking tren could do this to me, I had a long fight in my head before I took it as I knew having weak kidneys this one targets it. That was the reason for me using some much EQ during past cycles and low doses of test as my body actually agreed with it and never totally hurt itself.

Many people will read this and say it’s not juice, hence maybe it isn’t, but I can tell you now I don’t put any other shit into my body I drink herbal teas all day I drink around 3 liter of water a day, more on training days when I hit back close on another liter in my session but as you said some people have genetic weaknesses. I actually noticed the kidneys firstly around 6 years ago when I used some anadrol, man that put me on my back I couldn’t work every few minutes I would have to go lie down at work on my back to take the severe pain away. I have not used orals in about that time and really tried to use what was least toxic and harmful to me. I’m going to go chat to my mate is former SA champ and if he doesn’t give me a good slap I know his wife will. You know if I look at all the pills I’m taking right now, let me right down a few, some natural others drugs, this is keeping me going right now… (Liver support double strength milk thistle and SAMe for liver detoxify, Xanor (because I can’t sleep due to tren), Co-Aprovel (started at 50mg up to 300mg now) and amloc 10mg started at 5 (all for blood pressure) Kestine and Phenergan for my urtacaria, Vesicare 10mg and Finpecia 1mg for prostrate. Chromium Picolinate, Chlorella (used for my broken cell walls in my red blood cells), Proviron 25mg a day and Kessar and Tribulus both just trying to keep estrogen under control until I source some HCG and then will take 100mg Clomid for 10 days and 50mg for 10 days and finish off this course once and for all.

After all this I am going to get my kidneys back on track I’m sure I will, I will also get my other organs healthy again, I’m not sure if I can ever fix the enlarged left side of my heart but let’s see. Once my system is clean and I will make more effort to learn everything about natural training and try carry on my life dream but do it natural and compete this way.

Thanks for everything guys, even just reading this story…

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I would do a blood panel, get that analyzed and take it from there. If you are really in a bind, mail me and will see if I can put you onto someone who can help you medically and get you sorted. ONLY IF YOU IN A BIND, I will have to call in a favour, so pls respect that.

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Thats really cool of you man! Shoe... I don't like relying on anyone for favours but just knowing that really brings peace of mind... I'm on the right track I think now, and will see what happens. I just read in the new Muscle mag about reversing kidney damage and they nearlly impossible to do... I do not believe that and will fix myself some how, and paste here how I did it! This natural guy I believe will help me he also made me 3 Tinkchas? Can't spell it but it sounds like that, a mix of natural extracts in a alchol base and you take X ammount of drops 3 times a day.

Lets see if I can work to a point to get off these blood pressure tabs, you know before this cycle my BP on this medication actually dropped down once to 98 over 42, yes thats ridiculously low, but it shows that it was working, that was me not on a cycle for around a year. So I believe I can reverse the damage, that means that I could have dropped my dose of medication to half of what I was taking and maybe even further, they where trying to see if by lowering my BP down my kidneys would heal and I believe they where now I have messed up all research with doctors as now they can't work out whats going on. I need to get my filters opened in my kidneys and get things back into shape, take the strain off my heart from working so hard.

Will keep updates to this.