Post PCT Recovery and Advice Please

Hey guys

Hope you are all doing well!

It’s been a while since I posted, so just some background regarding the situation at hand:

I completed my last cycle in Aug 2016 (Pump’s Intermediate Lean mass and strength, with the Test, Tbol, Primo, Anavar and PCT). I got awesome results and minimum sides. I went on a business trip to the far east, and it would have worked out perfectly, as I would start PCT one day after my return, HOWEVER.. I picked up a nasty kidney infection with severe pain on my way back to SA. I immediately thought it was the juice which caused kidney stones, but… no stones luckily. I was in hospital for 3 days when I got back to SA. The Doc did a lot of bloods, and only the bilirubin and creatinine levels were a concern. After the 3 days in hospital, I was discharged with no damage to any organs, and the pain never came back. I came clean with the doc on my lifestyle, and he confirmed that whatever caused the kidney infection and pain, was NOT steroid inflicted.

I got advised by a senior member on the site to postpone my PCT with a month, to ensure the possible kidney issues cleared, which I did.

The only noticeable side effects after the PCT that I have been experiencing in the last 8 month, is that my balls didn’t really get back to normal size, but I know that recovery can take time, so didn’t think it was needed for another PCT perhaps, which I kind of regret now, and should have come to the forum earlier for advice. I’m also a bit more lethargic than usual.

I have been back at gym, still doing my diet etc. and want to plan for my next cycle (will probably do Pump’s Intermediate Lean mass and strength, with the Test, Tbol, Primo, Anavar and PCT again). I did some bloods yesterday with the following results, as I want to be 100% in the clear before I pin again. Any comments are welcome please






Based on these results, my questions are:

1 - Am I shut down, and your suggestion to fix it?
2 - Am I ready for my next cycle, and would you also consider these compounds again as listed above?
3 - Am I a possible TRT candidate with the lowish test levels?

Thank you guys, I really appreciate your comments and input

Let's see what everyone suggests but my take is the following.

1 if your balls have not recovered they probably won't, you seem to be the case where you need some more HCG in your recovery which isn't a bad thing, but you do need to make sure your not suffering from testicular atrophy before you start banging out the Nolva or you will not properly recover unless you in your late teens early 20s.

Regarding the creatinine, from my nephrologist mouth is completely normal up to 3 months after a cycle. All your bloods look fine, just because something may say h or l doesn't immediately mean to panic, they need to be looked at in perspective and mostly a physician will be able to advise if you need to act. Yes your test is a bit low but I firmly believe it is because the recovery wasn't that effective for you, maybe you need to hCG from 2 weeks before the PCT or maybe longer, I don't know it's a guess, only if your balls have dropped big time do you know it's time for the other goodies to do their magic, and you may need to extend your Nolva for another month or two, only after that and you still not recovered would I say you a candidate for TRT.

I say you good to go for another cycle and that cycle does work well for me, yes you could take Tren etc, but that comes with it's own headaches, that cycle kept me in peak shape 10 years ago. 

Just make sure you getting enough fats in and try focus on fish and chicken for awhile and get that total cholesterol down a touch.

Your T is low yes.
How old are you?
In future get LH and FSH tested also.
I would recommend PCT 3 and yes I know it sounds like I recommend it to eveyrone but it is becuase it got me from TRT candidate levels to high almost off the chart high normal levels granted I trained my ass off and folled a keto diet and it took two PCT 3's with 8weeks off between each and before blood work to get it done

Thx Pump and Rooi Bul! Much appreciated as always!!

Im 35. Rooi bul - so are you saying i should rather do another pct 3, and wait with my next cycle?

I would wait and recover first. Do a PCT 3 yes. Extend the Nolvadex and Aromasin part of it for 30 more days on each. After all is finished wait two months do bloods again and post back

Thx Rooi Bul... but... you are not really telling me what i want to hear

I personally don't see the point of fixing your test levels if all you going to do is go straight back on a cycle. You can always fix them after the cycle, once you start juice your levels are going to drop so spending so much time putting toxic meds that are used in PCT would be counter productive as you just going to put strain on your body and then go into a cycle putting more strain. If you PCT again then you just stay off all substances for 3 months after the PCT that might need to run for 60 to 90 days; so a next cycle could be a long way away. Tho is purely my point of view only.

00pump wrote: I personally don't see the point of fixing your test levels if all you going to do is go straight back on a cycle. You can always fix them after the cycle, once you start juice your levels are going to drop so spending so much time putting toxic meds that are used in PCT would be counter productive as you just going to put strain on your body and then go into a cycle putting more strain. If you PCT again then you just stay off all substances for 3 months after the PCT that might need to run for 60 to 90 days; so a next cycle could be a long way away. Tho is purely my point of view only.

I agree with this ^