Masteron vs Primo

Hey all.

Anybody have some feedback on a primo cycle?

I'm 45 years old, 6'4" and 105kgs. I've been on TRT (180mg Test C/week) for almost 2 years and usually run Masteron alongside it when I cycle, leaning and strength being my goals, not mass. I've been thinking about Primo this year but am not sure if it's worth the extra money vs Masteron?

I'm not a fan of orals so very seldom use Anavar. I don't like Winny at all because of how my joints feel and the injuries I get. EQ makes me ridiculously hungry and I'm not prepared to use Tren.

I like Masteron and it leans me out like crazy but even at 300mg/week I get tetchy towards the end of the cycle and I find the results very difficult to maintain after the cycle.

Is Primo worth the money? Would 400mg/week be enough and how long should it be run ideally? Any experience/advice appreciated.

Cheers

Hi Mfezdro,

Im learning from others success stories and needs some advice from you if you dont mind sharing.

What did you test and mast cycle look like
Also your test and equi cycle. What gains dit you make on this cycle?

I would appriciate your effort.

Jono

Hi Jono

The EQ cycle was my first injectable, about 7 years ago so the structure left a lot to be desired. I did 525mg EQ, 100mg Test (I know, newbie mistakes :blush: ) and proviron for 12 weeks. Test was low because I was worried about weight limits, not knowing EQ would be a bigger issue. If I had run a decent test amount I reckon this would have been a beautiful thing.

I loved this cycle, EQ is great for strength but I get hungry on it. I'll probably do it again at some point, I don't really watch the scale much, more body composition, I would drop the EQ a little and up the test. I can't remember how much weight I picked up, it was around 7kgs though, but what is very clear is the strength gains I made in the gym, it was crazy. Took long to kick in, around 6 weeks if I remember correctly. Body recomp was good.

I really enjoy Masteron. I run 300mg mast with 250mg or 300mg test for 10 weeks and have done this a couple times. I really don't feel the masteron much besides around week 8 to 10 you'll look in the mirror and realise that you're ripped. It's effect is very subtle. What I do notice is the tetchiness towards the end of the cycle. I'm wondering if Primo is a better choice due to this and the cholesterol affect as Masteron had an impact on my lipid profile.

For interest, I've just finished my first test and npp cycle. 300mg NPP and 250mg test/week for 8 weeks. I must admit, NPP is really good stuff. I felt very good. Again I was hungry and bulked up, when I actually wanted to lean up. It was good mass though and I looked more muscular than athletic, if that makes sense. Again very good strength in the gym and it kicks in really quickly. I picked up some slight estrogen signs towards the end but got it under control.

I don't really do a PCT because I'm on TRT anyway so just taper my test and run some Hcg towards the end , if that.

Hope that helps.

Thanks Mfezdro.

I was planning to run a masteron and test cycle this year. Then played around with the idea of adding npp for joint issues but was advised against it due to my experience.

I have done quite a bit of reading on npp lately and the more i read it the more i want to try it.
The general idea is that most people choose npp over tren due to it being friendlier on the body and giving good results (even though everyone admits tren gives much better results). I have this feeling i'm going to try it and not ever going to need tren in my life hahaha.

Hopefully if all goes well i can start this cycle by march for the latest and add that bit of masteron as well.

thanks for your input on this

Thanks for your time and effort,

It sounds al good. You saw my other post, so I will start the 22nd and post some results.

Primo 900 test 250.... voila. Thats a lot if oil though.

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I used EU pharma primo at 600mg per week, with my 500mg test per week and tbol. To be honest, i dont think primo works for me at all, or the EU Pharma primo is just oil... Some mates of mine said it works, and some agree with me. I guess my point is that its a kak expensive product, and you want to know that it will add value to your cycle. So maybe check the lab that you will use.

Spazzz wrote: I used EU pharma primo at 600mg per week, with my 500mg test per week and tbol. To be honest, i dont think primo works for me at all, or the EU Pharma primo is just oil... Some mates of mine said it works, and some agree with me. I guess my point is that its a kak expensive product, and you want to know that it will add value to your cycle. So maybe check the lab that you will use.

600 is scraping the barrel. Maybe in a Primo/EQ stack at 600. And you have to run it quite long with a good diet.... and 'if it fits your macros' doesn't fly with that either. If Primo didn't work for you you either ran it too low or too short. Test can be TRT dose. 250 - 300.... the days of depo 100 is over. You need double that TRT... at least.


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PGW primo 200 is a great product had good results with it stacked alongside test the best primo I have come across from ugls seem to always regret it when I switch or have to switch cause of stock issues to another brands primo...on HD labs primo at the moment not sure where this brand popped out of but it's a kak brand in my opinion from what I've used of there's, from the packaging to the contents...vials have different amounts of oil in them,not even sealed properly at times, descriptions wrong on labels and boxes, could maybe look past all that if the oil was half decent but it's also shit...can't see how it can be priced like it is should be half the going price.

@jackrabbit, thanks for the comment. I agree on the 200 trt dose, that's where I am now. 900mg/week of primo, how long would you run that for?

@lobo, I try only use PGW, how much did you run and for how long?

Cheers

Mfezdro wrote: @jackrabbit, thanks for the comment. I agree on the 200 trt dose, that's where I am now. 900mg/week of primo, how long would you run that for?

@lobo, I try only use PGW, how much did you run and for how long?

Cheers

I would aim for 16. Will take about 4 to start working properly that leaves plenty time. If you stop seeing changes at 14 then stop or cut the dose and add something like EQ. You have to keep check of progress. You're not going to 'feel' anything... those are normally andro sides.

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Mfezdro ran it mostly at 5 to 6 hundred mgs per week never more than 7 alongside test 600mg per week for 14 weeks...its never far from the protocol sometimes low like 400mg my favorite compound good results with no noticeable sides.