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05 Jul 2018 11:24 - 05 Jul 2018 11:28 #216545
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Hi all I would please like to request some info on pre and post cycle bloods. Both my test (free and total) and estro seem to be low. Test from 19.3 pre cycle to 13.2 now on the total test.
I am now 7 weeks post PCT and 13 weeks post cycle, still recovering??
30 year old. 220lb’s, 18%BF, 1.91m
My cycle was:
Week 1-5, 40mg Ment ED
Week 1-5, 100mg Test Prop EOD. Week 6-13, 120mg Test Prop EOD.
Week 1-10mg Primo Enanth 220mg EOD
Week 6-10, NPP 100mg EOD
Week 6-10, Dbol 30mg ED
Week 1 to 10, Letro 0.5mg ED
Week 2-10, HCG 300iu E3D
Week 6-10 Caber 0.5mg E3D
Week 14-16 40mg Nolva ED. Week 16-18 20mg Nolva ED. Week 19 10mg Nolva
Week 14-16 50mg Clomid ED. Week 16-17 25mg Clomid ED
Week 14-16 Aromasin 10mg EOD
So a 5 week PCT starting 30 days after the Enanthate and Phenylpropionate esters, and 4 days after last Test Prop injection.
Result December 2017 Result 01 July 2018
Quantative bHCG N/A vs Less than 5 ref range 0 to 5
PSA (Prostate) N/A vs 0.76 ref range 0 to 4
TSH 1.75 vs N/A ref range 0.35 to 4.94
T3 N/A vs N/A ref range 2.6 to 5.7
T4 N/A vs N/A ref range 9 to 19
Progesterone 0.3 vs Less than 0.5 ref range Less than 0.5 other says 0.4 to 3.1
Prolactin 7.6 vs 15.1 ref range 3.6 to 18.1
Oestradiol (E2) 73 vs Less than 37 ref range 40 to 161
Total Testosterone 19.3 vs 13.2 ref range More than 12
Free Testosterone 81 (Free androgen Index) vs 343 ref range 180 to 739 (FAI 30-150)
SHBG 23.8 vs 20.2 ref range 11.1 to 78.1
FSH 3.3 vs 5.4 ref range 1 to 12
LH 4.4 vs 5.6 ref range 1.8 to 8.2
I am now 7 weeks post PCT and 13 weeks post cycle, still recovering??
30 year old. 220lb’s, 18%BF, 1.91m
My cycle was:
Week 1-5, 40mg Ment ED
Week 1-5, 100mg Test Prop EOD. Week 6-13, 120mg Test Prop EOD.
Week 1-10mg Primo Enanth 220mg EOD
Week 6-10, NPP 100mg EOD
Week 6-10, Dbol 30mg ED
Week 1 to 10, Letro 0.5mg ED
Week 2-10, HCG 300iu E3D
Week 6-10 Caber 0.5mg E3D
Week 14-16 40mg Nolva ED. Week 16-18 20mg Nolva ED. Week 19 10mg Nolva
Week 14-16 50mg Clomid ED. Week 16-17 25mg Clomid ED
Week 14-16 Aromasin 10mg EOD
So a 5 week PCT starting 30 days after the Enanthate and Phenylpropionate esters, and 4 days after last Test Prop injection.
Result December 2017 Result 01 July 2018
Quantative bHCG N/A vs Less than 5 ref range 0 to 5
PSA (Prostate) N/A vs 0.76 ref range 0 to 4
TSH 1.75 vs N/A ref range 0.35 to 4.94
T3 N/A vs N/A ref range 2.6 to 5.7
T4 N/A vs N/A ref range 9 to 19
Progesterone 0.3 vs Less than 0.5 ref range Less than 0.5 other says 0.4 to 3.1
Prolactin 7.6 vs 15.1 ref range 3.6 to 18.1
Oestradiol (E2) 73 vs Less than 37 ref range 40 to 161
Total Testosterone 19.3 vs 13.2 ref range More than 12
Free Testosterone 81 (Free androgen Index) vs 343 ref range 180 to 739 (FAI 30-150)
SHBG 23.8 vs 20.2 ref range 11.1 to 78.1
FSH 3.3 vs 5.4 ref range 1 to 12
LH 4.4 vs 5.6 ref range 1.8 to 8.2
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05 Jul 2018 12:32 #216546
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HI buddy,
i'm not an expert on bloods, but just by looking at that cycle your body would have been shut down like crazy. In my opinion you should give it more time and let your body fully recover. Around 7 weeks i think it's still busy recovering from a cycle especially one including a 19 nor compound
I personally would wait around 3 months/12 weeks after PCT before i start thinking something is wrong.
i'm not an expert on bloods, but just by looking at that cycle your body would have been shut down like crazy. In my opinion you should give it more time and let your body fully recover. Around 7 weeks i think it's still busy recovering from a cycle especially one including a 19 nor compound
I personally would wait around 3 months/12 weeks after PCT before i start thinking something is wrong.
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07 Jul 2018 11:11 #216551
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Thanks Hoosain,
Yeah I'm 7 weeks post a 5 week PCT but I did a 8 week NPP and test P cycle last October and was fully recovered 6 weeks post PCT. The MENT must have really shut me down! I could feel I was getting shut down right when I added in the HCG, hence the Letro throughout. I took mid-cycle bloods as well and my estro was spot on even with Ment and HCG being run at the same time.
Holding thumbs, my free test isn't great, but it's not where it was. My total test is pretty shyte though. I'm looking to start another cycle in 10 weeks from now (17 weeks post PCT) so hopefully recovered by then. I'm on a SARM and DNP cutting cycle now which shouldn't suppress my natty test (GW50516, MK677, RAD140) as far as I know these sarms aren't suppressive.
Yeah I'm 7 weeks post a 5 week PCT but I did a 8 week NPP and test P cycle last October and was fully recovered 6 weeks post PCT. The MENT must have really shut me down! I could feel I was getting shut down right when I added in the HCG, hence the Letro throughout. I took mid-cycle bloods as well and my estro was spot on even with Ment and HCG being run at the same time.
Holding thumbs, my free test isn't great, but it's not where it was. My total test is pretty shyte though. I'm looking to start another cycle in 10 weeks from now (17 weeks post PCT) so hopefully recovered by then. I'm on a SARM and DNP cutting cycle now which shouldn't suppress my natty test (GW50516, MK677, RAD140) as far as I know these sarms aren't suppressive.
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07 Jul 2018 11:37 #216552
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thanks for that last bit of info about sarm cycle. i think we have just found the issue.
Rad has been said to be somewhat suppressive and i think that might be the culprit.
Rad has been said to be somewhat suppressive and i think that might be the culprit.
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07 Jul 2018 11:41 #216553
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Hi Hoosain,
Sorry, just to clarify, I started the SARM cycle a day after having the blood tests done, so they wouldn't have an effect
Sorry, just to clarify, I started the SARM cycle a day after having the blood tests done, so they wouldn't have an effect
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08 Jul 2018 08:02 #216554
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my bad, i assumed you were using the sarms during or just after PCT ended.
lets wait and see what the others think. I know pump, pyro and oupa are experts and this and will come and give great advice and opinions once they're online.
lets wait and see what the others think. I know pump, pyro and oupa are experts and this and will come and give great advice and opinions once they're online.
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