Cycle Log

Hi Forum.

Decided to start a cycle log so those who are interested can follow and/or give advice.

The cycle:

Wks 1-3: Superdrol @ 30 mg ED
Wks 1-11: Test Prop @ 100mg EOD (400mg per wk)
Wks 5-10: Tren Ace @ 80mg EOD (320mg per wk)
Wks 5-12: HcG 250iu E3D
Wks 9-13: Anavar @ 40mg ED

(Arimidex @ 0.5mg E3D if needed)
(Caber @ 0.5mg E5D after first Tren Pin)

PCT: (2 Wks after last Prop Pin)

Day 1-7: Clomid @ 100mg ED
Day 8-37: Nolva @ 20mg ED
Day 8-37: Aromasin @ 20mg ED
Day 1-37: Cardarine @ 10mg ED

Background:

Weight Training 6 times a week:
Quads + Calves
Back + Biceps
Chest + Triceps
Hamstrings + Calves
Shoulders + Rear Delts
Bicep + Tricep

Medium intensity cardio 25 min. Sundays: Abs and 40 min interval cardio.

Diet is between 3000-3500 cal/day (Deficit). Carbs are still high and will slowly be tapered down towards the end. One cheat meal per week. Carbs are focused around workout. I will probably lower it to a max of 3000 cal/day depending on the rate of fat lose.

So the cycle so far has been nothing short of awesome! I'm starting this a little late since I started exactly 3 weeks ago and I end the Superdrol today. I started the diet two weeks before the cycle and sat stable at 85,0 kg a few days prior to beginning. Now, before I say my weight this morning, let me just re-assure you that I am eating half the amounts that I have ever eaten and find myself fighting off hunger. However, I have picked up substantial weight, weighing in at 91.0 kg this morning. My body fat is the only thing I am not tracking accurately (I don't have a way of tracking it) But my abs have come out in full force, my veins are forming road maps down both arms, shoulders, chest. Striations showing on almost all muscles, the only place I still have visual fat is my lower abdomen area, and I suspected from the start that will be the most difficult to loose.

Strength is however slightly down and I think this is due to the calorie deficit. I combat this by dropping the weight and increasing the volume and intensity of my training.

This is my first time using Test Prop. I was worried about the PIP and for those of you wondering, its bearable. Sometimes I have almost zero PIP which I find in my shoulders strangely but then sometimes I can't even sit because my glute is sore. I have also experienced that the glute PIP is more painful.

I can feel great but I can feel myself getting a little more agitated, mood swings are also beginning. A few spots appeared on my back this week but nothing significant yet.

I was supposed to start the Tren today but decided to bump it up one week, just to let my body and hormones to settle without the Superdrol.

I will post a weekly update of the progress and anything significant. Please ask questions and/or give advice.

Gym_Junkie wrote: Hi Forum.

Decided to start a cycle log so those who are interested can follow and/or give advice.

The cycle:

Wks 1-3: Superdrol @ 30 mg ED ( Run 20mg for 5 weeks )
Wks 1-11: Test Prop @ 100mg EOD (400mg per wk)
Wks 5-10: Tren Ace @ 80mg EOD (320mg per wk)
Wks 5-12: HcG 250iu E3D
Wks 9-13: Anavar @ 40mg ED (Run Anavar 60mg minimum for 6 weeks)

Superdrol was dosed at 15 mg tabs, 2 per day. That's why I ran 30 mg.

I will up the dosage of var and start it one week earlier.

Are you taking any liver protection with the sdrol - I've always run huge suppliments with it out of fear of damage. Also, did you perhaps experience cramping? I've added taurine to my list of ancillaries because I cramped up so bad I had more pain from it than workouts!

6kg in a month is awesome, great results - your nutrition and training must be spot on.

Xpornstar wrote: Are you taking any liver protection with the sdrol - I've always run huge suppliments with it out of fear of damage. Also, did you perhaps experience cramping? I've added taurine to my list of ancillaries because I cramped up so bad I had more pain from it than workouts!

I use 3 tabs NPL Organ Support (Check it out, cool product) with some added more milk thistle in the morning and I take one tab of Essential liver support in the morning and at night. I started that two weeks before and still doing this now after SD end.

No cramping really other than a slight lower back pump which could also just be lower back pain.

Update:

Current weight: 90,6 kg.
Body-fat: 8%

Stopped gaining about a week ago and started dropping slightly. Started Tren at 0.8ml E2D about a week ago.

The most noticeable difference has been my emotions, sleeping, veins and pumps. I am definitely more aware of my emotions and I am generally very irritated all the time. I have to put my headphones on at the gym else I get too frustrated with the people around me. I have experienced insomnia the last few nights but when I do fall asleep, I have the most vivid dreams I have ever experienced. I woke up once and felt a bit lost between reality and the dream.

My pumps are borderline painful, veins in almost every muscle while resting and pumped. I have noticed that I am short of breath and my heart rate shoots up quickly.

Slight Ance on my back, my sex drive as dropped (Weird).

Lowered cardio because of knee issues and my diet tightened up this week to cleaner carbs and slightly lower calories. Two weeks from now, I will start lowering Carbs and trying to get below 6% bf. No fat burners planned just yet but will make the call in 2 weeks.

I have a show date btw, so I am putting my all into this.

Gym_Junkie wrote: Update:

Current weight: 90,6 kg.
Body-fat: 8%

Stopped gaining about a week ago and started dropping slightly. Started Tren at 0.8ml E2D about a week ago.

The most noticeable difference has been my emotions, sleeping, veins and pumps. I am definitely more aware of my emotions and I am generally very irritated all the time. I have to put my headphones on at the gym else I get too frustrated with the people around me. I have experienced insomnia the last few nights but when I do fall asleep, I have the most vivid dreams I have ever experienced. I woke up once and felt a bit lost between reality and the dream.

My pumps are borderline painful, veins in almost every muscle while resting and pumped. I have noticed that I am short of breath and my heart rate shoots up quickly.

Slight Ance on my back, my sex drive as dropped (Weird).

Lowered cardio because of knee issues and my diet tightened up this week to cleaner carbs and slightly lower calories. Two weeks from now, I will start lowering Carbs and trying to get below 6% bf. No fat burners planned just yet but will make the call in 2 weeks.

I have a show date btw, so I am putting my all into this.

Great post, I don't envy you though, that irritability drives me dilly, I'm just not made for Tren, but glad its getting you where you want to be.. Keep an eye on that heart rate, and out of interest from lying down to standing within 5 to 15 seconds, how many points does your heart rate jump?

You using anything to control progesterone, maybe contributing to libido decline..

00pump wrote: Great post, I don't envy you though, that irritability drives me dilly, I'm just not made for Tren, but glad its getting you where you want to be.. Keep an eye on that heart rate, and out of interest from lying down to standing within 5 to 15 seconds, how many points does your heart rate jump?

You using anything to control progesterone, maybe contributing to libido decline..

Yeah, I have experienced the irritability before while on gear but this seems to be more prominent. Luckily, I am a pretty calm person, I just have to actively remind myself to be less snappy. I haven't tested the heart rate jump like that but I will do an experiment tonight.

Currently running Adex @ 0.5mg E3D and Caber @ 0.5mg E5D. Started the caber 5 days after Tren start. Not sure if it may be to low or a hormone imbalance.

Gym_Junkie wrote:

00pump wrote: Great post, I don't envy you though, that irritability drives me dilly, I'm just not made for Tren, but glad its getting you where you want to be.. Keep an eye on that heart rate, and out of interest from lying down to standing within 5 to 15 seconds, how many points does your heart rate jump?

You using anything to control progesterone, maybe contributing to libido decline..

Yeah, I have experienced the irritability before while on gear but this seems to be more prominent. Luckily, I am a pretty calm person, I just have to actively remind myself to be less snappy. I haven't tested the heart rate jump like that but I will do an experiment tonight.

Currently running Adex @ 0.5mg E3D and Caber @ 0.5mg E5D. Started the caber 5 days after Tren start. Not sure if it may be to low or a hormone imbalance.

Impossible to say without bloods I'm afraid, everyones body is vastly different and what x dose does to me might be on a drop in the ocean for you, and Visa versa.

It really is. I am going to the doctor in the next few days to check my knee out and might at the same time just ask for blood test. He knows I run gear so it should be fine.

Gym_Junkie wrote: It really is. I am going to the doctor in the next few days to check my knee out and might at the same time just ask for blood test. He knows I run gear so it should be fine.

It isn't their job to judge, they not your school teacher or parent.

Update:

Current weight: 92,4 kg.
Body-fat: 7%

Life is very busy right now and I don't get much time to update this post. Just over 4 weeks left until show day.

Carbs have dropped lower this week, while increasing protein slightly. I picked up a lot of unexpected weight but I have been losing body fat. It's astounding! I have never experienced this before to this effect. Diet is obviously perfect for me and working. last cheat meal is this Saturday and then only the night before show day.

Notable issues would be emotions, sleep, veins and body temp. I am still very irritable all the time, especially in crowds. I seem to be able to better manage them now and feel slightly more settled, however, I have major mood swings occasionally. Word of advice, anybody thinking about running Tren and that has a history with mental illness, I strongly suggest to leave the stuff alone. Out of all the sides, the mental factors ace the hardest to handle. I am sleeping better but very light sleep. Last week I had 1-2 nights were I could not sleep at all. Veins are through the roof, I have never seen my veins like this during the day at work. The pumps are massive as well.

Very notable topic is body temperature. It is hot right now, but I am like REALLY hot. Not just at night but all the time. I did expect night sweats but I even get them during the day and I would have to go stand in front of a fan. I have my fan blowing the cold air from the air-con onto me just handle the heat at night.

This has so far been a very interesting, insightful, difficult but fun journey. I take my hat off to the people that do this kind of gear, prep and lifestyle. It is not easy at all.

A few question I want to ask the experienced guys about the competition. We are cutting injectibles 2 weeks before the show day but then my coach mentioned that we start PCT 2 weeks after the show. That would mean 4 weeks wait before starting PCT from last pin. From what I understand, I would start the Monday after the show because I am using short esters? What are your guys view on this?

Gym_Junkie wrote: Update:

Current weight: 92,4 kg.
Body-fat: 7%

Life is very busy right now and I don't get much time to update this post. Just over 4 weeks left until show day.

Carbs have dropped lower this week, while increasing protein slightly. I picked up a lot of unexpected weight but I have been losing body fat. It's astounding! I have never experienced this before to this effect. Diet is obviously perfect for me and working. last cheat meal is this Saturday and then only the night before show day.

Notable issues would be emotions, sleep, veins and body temp. I am still very irritable all the time, especially in crowds. I seem to be able to better manage them now and feel slightly more settled, however, I have major mood swings occasionally. Word of advice, anybody thinking about running Tren and that has a history with mental illness, I strongly suggest to leave the stuff alone. Out of all the sides, the mental factors ace the hardest to handle. I am sleeping better but very light sleep. Last week I had 1-2 nights were I could not sleep at all. Veins are through the roof, I have never seen my veins like this during the day at work. The pumps are massive as well.

Very notable topic is body temperature. It is hot right now, but I am like REALLY hot. Not just at night but all the time. I did expect night sweats but I even get them during the day and I would have to go stand in front of a fan. I have my fan blowing the cold air from the air-con onto me just handle the heat at night.

This has so far been a very interesting, insightful, difficult but fun journey. I take my hat off to the people that do this kind of gear, prep and lifestyle. It is not easy at all.

A few question I want to ask the experienced guys about the competition. We are cutting injectibles 2 weeks before the show day but then my coach mentioned that we start PCT 2 weeks after the show. That would mean 4 weeks wait before starting PCT from last pin. From what I understand, I would start the Monday after the show because I am using short esters? What are your guys view on this?

Eeek, you brought back allot of give but mostly bad memories. I couldn't deal with that level of irritability again.

You are correct about PCT, start it 3x the half life. Also because it was quite a suppressive cycle I would personally run the PCT longer and do bloods before stopping the PCT to make sure you have recovered. Some say wait some time after PCT and then do bloods, this doesn't make sense to me because if you not recovered and then waiting to see and then finding out you have not recovered you go back to PCT again.

It's been a ride. The way that my body looks is unbelievable...but I don't think I want to handle the mental side effects any time soon after this.

Thanks for the advice 00pump.

One note I forgot to add: Initially I was very worried about PIP from frequent injections with short esters. The first month was pretty painful but now I have to sometimes touch around my injection sites to see which one I last used. I barely have any pain and pinning so often is fine.

Completely forgot to follow up on this thread and life got really busy. Thought I should add some closing remarks that some might find interesting/helpful.

Firstly, I haven't updated in a while and I am currently half way through my last week of PCT which consisted of a three week blast of HCG (1500iu/week) 1 week before PCT and then 2 weeks of Clomid (100mg, 50mg) followed by 4 weeks of Nolva (20mg from second week of Clomid) and started ZMA at night with DAA in the morning last week.

As I mentioned before, I did this cycle for my first show which went very well, placing 2nd in my category. Started the cycle the cycle at 85kg @ 10-12& bf, 92kg a week before show day and came in at 84,5 kg on show day below 5 percent bf. Currently 4 weeks from show and weighing in at 92kg @ 8% bf. Holding a large amount of water artound my mid section adding to my weight that was a rebound effect from the water drop.

A few general notes: Tren is MAGIC (Fullstop). Paired with the competition diet and training regime, my entire shape has changed and it seems like it's here to stay! The amount of raw lean muscle it put on while on deficit is unbelievable. But will I use it again. No. Not until I maybe forget the mental aspects. That last week (6th) of Tren was horrible, I just wanted the stuff out of me. The mental aspects this drug puts you through is nothing like any other AAS.

But this cycle, plus the prep has left my body completely changed. This is the first time I'm sitting with so much weight (water is contributing though) but such a good shape, my strength is still through the roof and I am getting stronger even towards the end of my PCT. And the weirdest part about all of this is I feel as if I recovered very quickly. I have not got bloods yet but I would like to next week or the week after post PCT, but comparing it to the way I felt the last few cycles, it's like night and day. I have had a crazy sex drive right through, morning wood and all, I picked up size (not lost) and I have felt generally great (Where in the past I had major depression during PCT).

I have no idea why this PCT period is so different, thought it may be from the short acting gear (first time using them), the extreme diet change and body composition change for prep or maybe I just got my PCT spot on. Strange but I'm loving it.

Hope some of you enjoyed this log.