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07 Sep 2019 19:16 #220298 by uzzi
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hwsit peeps,i started bowt 3mnths bk shooting 400mg test e weekly with half arimidex eod,1st 10weeks i included 50mg proviron to harden me up as i was very soft n just started training aftr a decade,bowt 10days bk i noticed my libido n morning wood was really active as it was thru the first 10weeks n waistline was growing daily even on my low carb diet i been on throughout the 12weeks,did bloods week ago n my test level was 153nmol n e2 was 435pmol which is extremely high,my dealer said i shud tke 1mg arimidex daily for nect 2weeks to bring down e2 while cntinuing the 400mg test e dose for next 3weeks,really worried bowt the high e2,any advice hw i cud bring it down bk to normal levels while maintaing high test levels,thnx

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08 Sep 2019 10:31 #220300 by Mfezdro
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You have taken 400mg test e for 12 weeks with another 3 to go? You cannot have “normal” E2 levels while taking abnormal test. Please post your full bloods with ranges. What test level are you referring to, free or total? Are you sure you tested E2?
Are you having any side effects besides belly fat? What shape, body fat % were you at before you started the cycle?

You can take Adex but 1mg/day sounds excessive and will probably crash your E2. How long did you plan the cycle to run and what does your PCT look like? What is your plan to bridge for 28 odd days without test before PCT? What have your results been after 12 weeks?
The best way to reduce aromatisation is to reduce your test dose and not to be fat. If this is a straight cycle then Adex is the way to go, if you’re experiencing side effects.

My comments are not advice, medical or otherwise. I am not a medical practitioner. Always consult your Doctor before making decisions.

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08 Sep 2019 14:55 #220301 by uzzi
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in all honesty looking at the questions u posted i now realise how ignorant i am as far as what i been doin,i was planning to stop the test end of september an start using anavar with helios to drop as much fat as possible for 8 weeks,6mnths bk i was 110kg at 38% bodyfat,before starting with test i was 104kg,i now weigh about 93kg,my goal is ideallu to drop as much fat as possible as put on some muscle while at it,my dealer reckon i shud start pct 2 weeks aftr my last shot an i cn cntinue with anavar at 40mg a day n the helios while doin pct,what would u advise i shud do if the advise i received is gonna cause me more harm thn benefit,the test i done was e2 at total test at lancet laboratory as per my docs request,did a few other test on liver,kidney an platelets as well,kidney egfr has dropped n creatinine levels has increased as well as protein in urine,

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08 Sep 2019 23:57 #220302 by lobo
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Your dealers an idiot, no point doing pct and taking gear at the same time.
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09 Sep 2019 08:51 - 09 Sep 2019 08:54 #220303 by Mfezdro
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I don't understand just taking your "dealers" advice. It sounds like he knows less than nothing, even worse you're putting your health and endocrine system in his hands. Why would you not do your own research before just taking what he suggests. Anyway, it's done now. Also, it sounds like you've dropped a lot of weight so well done on that.

It's tough for me to decipher exactly what your cycle looked like. You have to get your E2 down though, I think before starting PCT. I'd do the following.

Test E - 400mg/week, split into 2 injections so 200mg x 2 per week until end September.

Adex - You say you were taking half? I assume thats 0.5mg every other day? Up that to 0.5mg every day. After 2 weeks go back to lancet and have your Total Test, Free Test and E2 tested. Depending on the result, either stick to that adex dose, reduce it or increase it. Lancet do patient referral tests, you don't need a doctor to request it but must pay upfront.

You will need a 30 day bridge into PCT. So for the month of October you stop the Test E and bridge with something like anavar or Tbol. At end October do PCT 1 on this site.

Usually I would suggest doing Hcg for the 30 days while you bridge, this will stimulate your natural T production, unfortunately Hcg definitely causes aromatisation and adex does nothing to control this. The only thing I could suggest is do another blood test at end September and see where your E2 levels sit then make that call. Hcg for 30 days then PCT 1 would be good depending on E2.


Honestly, I'm not sure that this is even the best solution, I think also see what guys like Pump, Oupa and Muscleaddict have to say. Maybe better to stop now and run the adex for 30 days while he bridges trying to reduce the E2?

My comments are not advice, medical or otherwise. I am not a medical practitioner. Always consult your Doctor before making decisions.
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09 Sep 2019 14:15 #220304 by uzzi
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Mfezdro wrote: I don't understand just taking your "dealers" advice. It sounds like he knows less than nothing, even worse you're putting your health and endocrine system in his hands. Why would you not do your own research before just taking what he suggests. Anyway, it's done now. Also, it sounds like you've dropped a lot of weight so well done on that.

It's tough for me to decipher exactly what your cycle looked like. You have to get your E2 down though, I think before starting PCT. I'd do the following.

Test E - 400mg/week, split into 2 injections so 200mg x 2 per week until end September.

Adex - You say you were taking half? I assume thats 0.5mg every other day? Up that to 0.5mg every day. After 2 weeks go back to lancet and have your Total Test, Free Test and E2 tested. Depending on the result, either stick to that adex dose, reduce it or increase it. Lancet do patient referral tests, you don't need a doctor to request it but must pay upfront.

You will need a 30 day bridge into PCT. So for the month of October you stop the Test E and bridge with something like anavar or Tbol. At end October do PCT 1 on this site.

Usually I would suggest doing Hcg for the 30 days while you bridge, this will stimulate your natural T production, unfortunately Hcg definitely causes aromatisation and adex does nothing to control this. The only thing I could suggest is do another blood test at end September and see where your E2 levels sit then make that call. Hcg for 30 days then PCT 1 would be good depending on E2.


Honestly, I'm not sure that this is even the best solution, I think also see what guys like Pump, Oupa and Muscleaddict have to say. Maybe better to stop now and run the adex for 30 days while he bridges trying to reduce the E2?

thanx alot buddy,im new on this site an forum as well so still finding my way around, how do i get into contact with the other dudes u mentioned on this forum to assist me with advice on this problem,really appreciate u tking out ur time

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09 Sep 2019 16:30 - 09 Sep 2019 16:30 #220305 by Muscleaddict
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From those blood test results, they are so fucked it looks to me like you are trolling. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. So congrats on the fat loss so far.

But 400mg/week of test can NOT give you a total T of 152nmol. It should be half that. Especially since you're converting so much to estrogen.

Body fat is way too high for a cycle. This is one of the many reasons why one shouldn't do cycles of test or deca with such high body fat levels. Our adipose tissue fat is very high aromatase which converts testosterone converts to estrogen.

You need a MUCH higher dose of arimidex or whatever AI to prevent estrogenic side effects when you're carrying a lot of fat.

Your E2 is so high I would question whether your adex is legit.
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10 Sep 2019 12:12 #220308 by uzzi
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Muscleaddict wrote: From those blood test results, they are so fucked it looks to me like you are trolling. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. So congrats on the fat loss so far.

But 400mg/week of test can NOT give you a total T of 152nmol. It should be half that. Especially since you're converting so much to estrogen.

Body fat is way too high for a cycle. This is one of the many reasons why one shouldn't do cycles of test or deca with such high body fat levels. Our adipose tissue fat is very high aromatase which converts testosterone converts to estrogen.

You need a MUCH higher dose of arimidex or whatever AI to prevent estrogenic side effects when you're carrying a lot of fat.

Your E2 is so high I would question whether your adex is legit.

bud if u cn tell me how to post my lancet blood test results il send it here,im not trolling an have no reason to troll bowt my health

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10 Sep 2019 12:14 #220309 by uzzi
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Muscleaddict wrote: From those blood test results, they are so fucked it looks to me like you are trolling. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. So congrats on the fat loss so far.

But 400mg/week of test can NOT give you a total T of 152nmol. It should be half that. Especially since you're converting so much to estrogen.

Body fat is way too high for a cycle. This is one of the many reasons why one shouldn't do cycles of test or deca with such high body fat levels. Our adipose tissue fat is very high aromatase which converts testosterone converts to estrogen.

You need a MUCH higher dose of arimidex or whatever AI to prevent estrogenic side effects when you're carrying a lot of fat.

Your E2 is so high I would question whether your adex is legit.

i been using the pharmacom test e500 an stradex arimidex,if this is weak quality

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10 Sep 2019 15:13 #220315 by Muscleaddict
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Go to www.imgur.com and upload your results in a jpg format. But first block out your name and your doctor's name.
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19 Dec 2019 10:54 #220756 by uzzi
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Mfezdro wrote: I don't understand just taking your "dealers" advice. It sounds like he knows less than nothing, even worse you're putting your health and endocrine system in his hands. Why would you not do your own research before just taking what he suggests. Anyway, it's done now. Also, it sounds like you've dropped a lot of weight so well done on that.

It's tough for me to decipher exactly what your cycle looked like. You have to get your E2 down though, I think before starting PCT. I'd do the following.

Test E - 400mg/week, split into 2 injections so 200mg x 2 per week until end September.

Adex - You say you were taking half? I assume thats 0.5mg every other day? Up that to 0.5mg every day. After 2 weeks go back to lancet and have your Total Test, Free Test and E2 tested. Depending on the result, either stick to that adex dose, reduce it or increase it. Lancet do patient referral tests, you don't need a doctor to request it but must pay upfront.

You will need a 30 day bridge into PCT. So for the month of October you stop the Test E and bridge with something like anavar or Tbol. At end October do PCT 1 on this site.

Usually I would suggest doing Hcg for the 30 days while you bridge, this will stimulate your natural T production, unfortunately Hcg definitely causes aromatisation and adex does nothing to control this. The only thing I could suggest is do another blood test at end September and see where your E2 levels sit then make that call. Hcg for 30 days then PCT 1 would be good depending on E2.


Honestly, I'm not sure that this is even the best solution, I think also see what guys like Pump, Oupa and Muscleaddict have to say. Maybe better to stop now and run the adex for 30 days while he bridges trying to reduce the E2?

hey bud thaks for thee advise,i ended my test end september an did a 5week bridge with wini n anavar at 40mg each per day,finished my pct last week n done bloodwork on mnday,my e2 level are right down to 62,done a liver test as well an my ast alt liver enzymes are extremely high n im guessimg this is cause of the wini tabs,i have been tking milk thistle while on the orals bt coearly was nt much of a help,any idea way i cn use to bring my alt ast levels down again,thnz again

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19 Dec 2019 12:27 #220757 by 00pump
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uzzi wrote:

Mfezdro wrote: I don't understand just taking your "dealers" advice. It sounds like he knows less than nothing, even worse you're putting your health and endocrine system in his hands. Why would you not do your own research before just taking what he suggests. Anyway, it's done now. Also, it sounds like you've dropped a lot of weight so well done on that.

It's tough for me to decipher exactly what your cycle looked like. You have to get your E2 down though, I think before starting PCT. I'd do the following.

Test E - 400mg/week, split into 2 injections so 200mg x 2 per week until end September.

Adex - You say you were taking half? I assume thats 0.5mg every other day? Up that to 0.5mg every day. After 2 weeks go back to lancet and have your Total Test, Free Test and E2 tested. Depending on the result, either stick to that adex dose, reduce it or increase it. Lancet do patient referral tests, you don't need a doctor to request it but must pay upfront.

You will need a 30 day bridge into PCT. So for the month of October you stop the Test E and bridge with something like anavar or Tbol. At end October do PCT 1 on this site.

Usually I would suggest doing Hcg for the 30 days while you bridge, this will stimulate your natural T production, unfortunately Hcg definitely causes aromatisation and adex does nothing to control this. The only thing I could suggest is do another blood test at end September and see where your E2 levels sit then make that call. Hcg for 30 days then PCT 1 would be good depending on E2.


Honestly, I'm not sure that this is even the best solution, I think also see what guys like Pump, Oupa and Muscleaddict have to say. Maybe better to stop now and run the adex for 30 days while he bridges trying to reduce the E2?

hey bud thaks for thee advise,i ended my test end september an did a 5week bridge with wini n anavar at 40mg each per day,finished my pct last week n done bloodwork on mnday,my e2 level are right down to 62,done a liver test as well an my ast alt liver enzymes are extremely high n im guessimg this is cause of the wini tabs,i have been tking milk thistle while on the orals bt coearly was nt much of a help,any idea way i cn use to bring my alt ast levels down again,thnz again


Try using NAC for a few months.

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