Sub Q - Test E

Hi All,

I'm interested in trying sub q injections using PGW Test E, but have a few questions. I've tried the IM route but find it unbearable regardless of technique, injection speed etc.

1) Max injections volume for sub q? I've read that 0.5ml seems to be the upper limit.
2) I have visble veins pretty much all over my body, should I aspirate when doing sub q injections? I have a lot of anxiety about possibility injecting into a vein. Is this even a valid concern?
3) Needle size, thinking of using a 29G 1ml insulin pin.
4) Running 1.5ml per week (450mg test e), would like to split in into 3 x 0.5ml sub q shots.
5) Any general advice or tips regarding sub q would be appreciated.

Thanks

I cant use subQ at all, my skin or something rejects injection, makes a huge lump for about 5 days.

I am with Oupa on that.

I have tried small doses. Tried warming the compound. Tried just warming it to body temp end still my skin or body does not want it.

DR.DEATH wrote: Hi All,
I've tried the IM route but find it unbearable regardless of technique, injection speed etc.

Have you tried 25G needles for IM shots? It takes longer to get the injection done but it's completely painless.

Have you found 25g needles longer than 1 inch available in SA?

Hi All,

Forgot all about this topic, thought I'd give some feedback.

I ran a full sub-q cycle, 450mg PGW test split into 3 x 0.5ml shots. I used 3ml syringes/22G needles to draw from the vial, back loaded into a 29G 1.25cm insulin syringe and injected slowly into stomach fat.

Cycle went great, no issues or complications. No lasting lumps, minor paniless swelling for a few hours after each shot. I'll most definitely be sticking to sub q given my terrible experiences with IM. I would however stick to IM if the injection volumes were higher but as I don't plan on ever going over 450-500mg per week sub q is perfect.


Perhaps off topic and I might have asked this before, I have expired LP aromasin, tbol, anavar and nolva. Aforementioned products expired about a year ago, can I safely use them on my next cycle?

Thanks!

DR.DEATH wrote: Perhaps off topic and I might have asked this before, I have expired LP aromasin, tbol, anavar and nolva. Aforementioned products expired about a year ago, can I safely use them on my next cycle?

Thanks!

They're fine to use. Might have lost a bit of potency but none will become toxic.

Morning Gents.

ok so i do TRT with Sub Q injections. I find ALL Uglabs have caused skin irritation, so the way I combat this is I buy UG test C and my Pfizer Depot test and I Do subq inj of 15iu of UG test Cyp and 10iu of depot test. No welts. the BA concentration is what i find causes the irritation. this gives me 55mg testosterone which i do in an EOD fashion, so less than 200mg weekly on average.

this way i have gotten away without having to use an AI.
hope this helps

I do subQ TRT with PGW Test C. I found that lumps tend to be more prevalent in testosterone enanthate esters. My brother also uses Test C from PGw for his TRT and injects it subcutaneously with no issues.

Hope this helps

But why? So little you might as well just site inject into the muscle. Insulin needle on top of that so even more reason not to.

less scar tissue build-up, that's one of the benefits. Also it has been shown that subq injections give you more bang for buck. think its 80mg subQ is the same as 100mg IM.

LesDoctor wrote: I do subQ TRT with PGW Test C. I found that lumps tend to be more prevalent in testosterone enanthate esters. My brother also uses Test C from PGw for his TRT and injects it subcutaneously with no issues.

Hope this helps

I concur fully. PGW Test C subq is no issue for me.

I have tried PGW Supertest subq (which has enanthate) and boy was that a mistake! Huge big painful red hard lumps that took over a week each to somewhat but not fully subside. Both glute and stomach.

Empire wrote: less scar tissue build-up, that's one of the benefits. Also it has been shown that subq injections give you more bang for buck. think its 80mg subQ is the same as 100mg IM.

Can you share a link or something ?

www.t-nation.com/pharma/get-20-better-results-from-testosterone

Looks no bad. Wish you good luck.