Game Changers - Netflix Docu

Anybody watched the Game Changers documentary on Netflix? Whats your take on it?

Will check it out and comment

My take on veganism that if you don't want to eat animal products then that's your choice and I respect that. You can still make very good gains eating a plant based diet.

But if really believe that you can get the SAME muscle hypertrophy and strength gains from a vegan diet as having steak, chicken, eggs, and whey protein etc, then you are a fucking idiot and I don't want to know you because you must have some psycho agenda or be too stupid for my time.

Using examples of top level vegan athletes to justify that meat/eggs is not needed to perform at your BEST is ridiculous in sports where strength and power is a major factor that sets the winners and losers apart. If these guys ate steak maybe they'd hold world records, but they don't.

There are always outliers in every field who are genetically gifted. If these professional vegan athletes ate meat they would be stronger and better.

This German vegan strongman guy who supposedly is one of the strongest guys in the world couldn't even qualify for the World's Strongest Man competition. There are powerlifters in the 83Kg class who can bench more than him. :lol:

Ok so this Patrik Baboumian strongman guy in the movie is very strong, but these claims made about him are hyped up.

To put things in perspective: In 2012 he supposed won the European title in the open weight class in the European Powerlifting Championships. His numbers:

Squat: 300kg, Bench: 200kg, Deadlift: 330kg, 830kg Total at 127kg bodyweight. :S

A quick google shows that unfortunately he competed in one of the :pinch: tiddlywink powerlifting federations, not in a federation where the really strong guys actually competed.

In the drug tested 2012 IPF European Championships he would not have even won the 83kg weight category or finished top 5 in the 93kg class.

The REAL 2012 European powerlifting champ's total was more than 300kg higher than Patrik's. 830kg vs 1135kg. Case closed.

Yeah I agree with you, what irritates me about the majority of vegans is that they want to force their way of doing things down your throat. Crossfit people were the same when it started gaining popularity.

One thing that i kept thinking while watching the Docu is why are they trying so hard to make meat the bad thing here. yeah sure all the hormones and stuff in beef and chicken is not ideal, but there are alternatives.

Also why does it have to be one side or the other. what happened to a balanced diet full of high quality foods and trying to eat the food in as close as possible to how it is in nature? processed foods and sugars should be the ones that more questions are asked about, but i guess the multi billion dollar industries behind those processed foods can throw some money at it to change the narrative and make themselves the good guys :silly:

Just another fad by the powers at be to create a new market place to sell their vegan products...some people will fall for any shit they hear or see...Dave palumbos done a rant video on this topic makes some good points is worth a watch.

Hahaha Layne Norton also flipped... most in the know shot it down.

Vleis is lekker en goedkoop genoeg.

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