No erection whatsoever

Hi Iron family, I hope lockdown is not treating you as bad as it does to me.Anyway let me get straight the point, I was running a cycle of Test Cyp & Tbol with HCG and proviron during the cycle. I finished my pct in March.I never had any problem after my PCT until recently.A little fella doesn’t seem to work anymore.I did used Cabaser not so long ago and everything was fine but after stopping it,Things became worse...What could be the cause and what’s your advice on a way forward

I’m 34yrs old,102 kg and +- 12% body fat

Why the need for cabaser out of the blue?

what did you do for pct and for how long?

Caber for psych meds maybe ? Could be that...

00pump wrote: Why the need for cabaser out of the blue?

I thought maybe it will help to bring things to normal

Empire wrote: what did you do for pct and for how long?

It was 100mg ed Clomid for 7 days
And 20mg Ed Nolvadex for 3weeks

run your tamoxifen for another 30 days and see how you feel after that, maybe you just arent recovered correctly.

Bobcat wrote:

00pump wrote: Why the need for cabaser out of the blue?

I thought maybe it will help to bring things to normal

It makes no sense to just use Cabaser. I would do a testosterone and e2 blood test and then see where you at. Everything else would just be guess work which means you taking powerful drugs without actually knowing what needs treatment.

what is your current diet and training like? what supplements are you taking? 00pump is 100% correct, blood tests are needed, but if you want there are a few natural options you could go for but I would like to see what's going on with nutrition currently too.

Empire wrote: what is your current diet and training like? what supplements are you taking? 00pump is 100% correct, blood tests are needed, but if you want there are a few natural options you could go for but I would like to see what's going on with nutrition currently too.

At the moment I’m trying at someone’s back yard at least 3 or days a week and honestly I don’t have a proper eating plan,I’m eating as clean,Mixing protein and carbs on every mean 4 times a day

The fact that your erectile dysfunction occurred after discontinuing Cabergoline does make me question whether or not it was due to the cabergoline. Both hypo and hyperprolactinaemia can cause ED. Excess prolactin interferes with secretion of gonadotropin-releasing hormone, resulting in decreased testosterone and ED. You'd need blood tests to be certain if it is hormonally related.

You could also be suffering from Dopamine-agonist withdrawal syndrome which for the most part is temporary. These are some of the symptoms of it I could find: DAWS include anxiety, panic attacks, dysphoria, depression, agitation, irritability, suicidal ideation, fatigue, orthostatic hypotension, nausea, vomiting, diaphoresis, generalized pain, drug cravings and even erectile dysfunction. If you feel you might have this always visit your doctor.

There's no way to be sure what it is without blood tests.

Bobcat wrote:

Empire wrote: what is your current diet and training like? what supplements are you taking? 00pump is 100% correct, blood tests are needed, but if you want there are a few natural options you could go for but I would like to see what's going on with nutrition currently too.

At the moment I’m trying at someone’s back yard at least 3 or days a week and honestly I don’t have a proper eating plan,I’m eating as clean,Mixing protein and carbs on every mean 4 times a day

Empire works with proper data, so you would need to give an example breakdown..

Hi empire.

Is there a reason clomid is ran at only 7 days of 100mg? Is that all that is needed or is that the minimum?

00pump wrote:

Bobcat wrote:

Empire wrote: what is your current diet and training like? what supplements are you taking? 00pump is 100% correct, blood tests are needed, but if you want there are a few natural options you could go for but I would like to see what's going on with nutrition currently too.

At the moment I’m trying at someone’s back yard at least 3 or days a week and honestly I don’t have a proper eating plan,I’m eating as clean,Mixing protein and carbs on every mean 4 times a day

Empire works with proper data, so you would need to give an example breakdown..

Breakfast: Cup of oats with plain yogurt/peanut butter and 5 boiled/scrambled egg
Meal 2: Chicken breast with rice
Meal 3: Steak with rice/Potatoes
Last meal: Fish/Checken with veggies or Greek salad
I take BCAA During training & Whey protein after workout

LesDoctor wrote: The fact that your erectile dysfunction occurred after discontinuing Cabergoline does make me question whether or not it was due to the cabergoline. Both hypo and hyperprolactinaemia can cause ED. Excess prolactin interferes with secretion of gonadotropin-releasing hormone, resulting in decreased testosterone and ED. You'd need blood tests to be certain if it is hormonally related.

You could also be suffering from Dopamine-agonist withdrawal syndrome which for the most part is temporary. These are some of the symptoms of it I could find: DAWS include anxiety, panic attacks, dysphoria, depression, agitation, irritability, suicidal ideation, fatigue, orthostatic hypotension, nausea, vomiting, diaphoresis, generalized pain, drug cravings and even erectile dysfunction. If you feel you might have this always visit your doctor.

There's no way to be sure what it is without blood tests.

I’m not sure if I’m allowed to ask a preferred doctor to do blood tests Cos I don’t have a medical aid....Any advice on where and how to get my blood tests done?

Mr Z wrote: Hi empire.

Is there a reason clomid is ran at only 7 days of 100mg? Is that all that is needed or is that the minimum?

there are a few ways of running a pct, and Doctari's pct ideas have been amazing and the backbone of the forum here for many years. But these PCTS are the minimum if you pct hasn't been effective enough you need to run it for longer. Also, peoples PCTS fail due to them starting too early without waiting the right time before the body is able to recover.

I find that a 100mg of Clomid can be too high, I find if you get Clomid side effects such as emotional depressive feelings the Clomid dosing is too high, I have had great results with people using 20mg tamoxifen daily and 25mg Clomid EOD, but that is cos I don't get guys to run very suppressive cycles these days.

well, to be honest, I don't think are doing yourself any justice with a nutrition plan like that, there might be a slow recovery due to low-fat levels as well as low-calorie levels for your body.

I would start by measuring and tracking your foods so that you can actually see how many calories you are taking in daily, at 104kgs that is very very little food

I know but the thing is I’m self employed and the moment I’m not receiving any income

Mr Z wrote: Hi empire.

Is there a reason clomid is ran at only 7 days of 100mg? Is that all that is needed or is that the minimum?

Clomid has an extremely long half life and is still active in your system for a couple of weeks after the last dose at 100mg/day.

Bobcat wrote: Hi Iron family, I hope lockdown is not treating you as bad as it does to me.Anyway let me get straight the point, I was running a cycle of Test Cyp & Tbol with HCG and proviron during the cycle. I finished my pct in March

Get bloods. You really just need to know your LH, FSH, total T and prolactin and maybe vitamin D3 so you don't need to spend too much.

Your LH and FSH level could help determine if it's primary or secondary hypogonadism. Supplement vitamin D anyway. Most of us need extra during winter.

Most cases would be either high SHBG or high E2, otherwise some prolactin issue(likely in this case).
Don't forget SHBG is my main point and maybe get pharmaceutical clomiphene if you want to stimulate FSH and LH.