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Boldenone - Does it aromatize or is it a weak AI ?
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I think some of these "bro science" is up to something.
www.reddit.com/r/steroids/comments/gb6up...are&utm_medium=web2x
So im going to be using both as data finders however I would like to point out that they maybe missed something with the aromatization.
Why it could aromatize roughly 50% of that like T does...
So - in Llewellyn's famous anabolic steroid book he reference this study:
sci-hub.tw/10.1210/endo-71-6-920
Now ive read that study from top to bottom but i cannot find 1 Boldenone metabolite - a few "Boldione" but not Boldenone.
Now in his other book he references this:
www.researchgate.net/publication/2844100...child_and_adolescent
I still can't find Boldenone. - I think he made an error with Boldione and Boldenone...
In this study we find that all these are the metabolites for EQ -
onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/bms.1200210104
5β‐androst‐1‐en‐17β‐ol‐3‐one
5β‐androst‐1‐ene‐3α,17β‐diol
5β‐androst‐1‐en‐3α‐ol‐17‐one
5β‐androst‐1‐en‐6β‐ol‐3,17‐dione
5β‐androst‐1‐ene‐3,17‐dione
5α‐androst‐1‐ene‐3,17‐dione (aka 1-AD)
androsta‐1,4‐diene‐3,17‐dione (aka ADD)
androsta‐1,4‐diene‐6β,17β‐diol‐3‐one
androsta‐1,4‐dien‐6β‐ol‐3,17‐dione
ADD - l,4-Androstadiene-3,17-dione converts to roughly half of that of testosterone - So maybe did Llewellyn use ADD and l,4-Androstadiene-3,17-dione to show it converts to roughly half of that of testosterone
NOW WAIT...
Why it could possibly have an AI.
www.wada-ama.org/sites/default/files/res...19ws_w._schanzer.pdf
Wada has clearly done a study on Boldenone saying it has an AI metabolite... Maybe im not that far off...
“Differentiation between the administration of the aromatase inhibitor
Androstatrienedione, and the anabolic androgenic steroids Boldione and
Boldenone”
W. Schanzer, M.K. Parr (German Sport University, Cologne, Germany)
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ATD is classified as an aromatase inhibitor.
pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/13472 - thats the apparent AI metabolite.
What do you guys think ?
(According to the data it means it aromatizes and it has an AI meaning i think it has 0 effect on E2.)
Sorry if this has already been discussed. I really just couldnt find it on the forum.
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I would say that Primobolan has more of an AI effect than Boldenone from my experiences, but that's just my experiences and have no evidence to back that up. I personally feel that someone who was to run say 250mg test C a week, 250mg Equi a week, and 200mg Masteron/primo a week would have very little estrogenic side effects and have incredibly good lean hard dry gains. and even that cycle would be a decent cycle for someone who is in the 90-100kg range.
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Thanks for the response @Empire i just find this stuff fascinating...
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I went with water weight. I was eating consistent in diet but thend ropped 1 kg when i started supplementing the EQ low dose. however on can argue metabolism increase etc etc. Either way i didnt gain ANY water weight in the end thats why I think it does aromatize but it has mild/weak AI effects on the body.
I totally agree the idea behind E2 affected thing that its either:
1. minimal
2. non existent
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with mast and EQ. Primo i dont know about...
Ive heard of people use 1g EQ a week with 250mg test claim they have low e2 and that a few dbols helped their insomnia and depression due to low e2. But thats purely anecdotal. If i have money oneday ill do some bloodtests while on EQ and test vs same test dosage with no EQ.
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vladtheimpaler wrote: Hey pump- i didnt go with gyno seemingly even tabasco makes my nips flare up.
I went with water weight. I was eating consistent in diet but thend ropped 1 kg when i started supplementing the EQ low dose. however on can argue metabolism increase etc etc. Either way i didnt gain ANY water weight in the end thats why I think it does aromatize but it has mild/weak AI effects on the body.
I totally agree the idea behind E2 affected thing that its either:
1. minimal
2. non existent
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with mast and EQ. Primo i dont know about...
Ive heard of people use 1g EQ a week with 250mg test claim they have low e2 and that a few dbols helped their insomnia and depression due to low e2. But thats purely anecdotal. If i have money oneday ill do some bloodtests while on EQ and test vs same test dosage with no EQ.
And that is the problem you going on symptoms and how they manifest. And if something is selective here but not selective elsewhere does not mean your E2 is low. The only way I'll be convinced is purely by a lab result while running XYZ. All these posts or videos you watch people just talk and talk and its very frustrating that blood work is not presented. Just by cleaning up your diet and eating correctly will help excess water.
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