UPA Gear

Hi huys,

Anyone want to share their thoughts and experiences with the UPA brand?

I have recently tried their Max Bulk blend, I can say its definitely not bunk but I might not be working that well for me. However, I must also mention that its the first time that I've ever used a blend.

I get injection pain from this (PIP), but it can also be the high concentration.

My personal opinion is that it might be under-dosed.

Any real experience with some of their other products?

Hi Shaun, how would you know if it's under dosed? Have you had a blood test?
Diet, training and rest in check?

Hi NOS,

Good question. I understand that there are many factors to take in consideration, and the only way to really proof potency of gear is by blood work I guess.

I've started my cycle (first 15 days) with Test Cyp 250 and Deca 100 every 5days (x3)
Then I switched to the UPA blend: Test Cyp 200/Tren E 200/Deca 200. (50mg less Test I Know)

Just before I switched over I felt amazing, people noticed the difference already.
(Yes, I train hard and diet in check)

About 4 days after my first UPA shot I started to feel "less enhanced" (not sure how to describe).

I realize that I've dropped 50mg of Test. I had rapid gains/improvements during the first 15days and then it sort of settled.
My generic limit is about 95kg @10%, and I currently at 90kg @20% (estimate bodyfat)

I just thought that the 200mg Tren and the extra 100mg Deca would make some difference.

But again, so many factors to consider, its hard to tell. Hence I'm asking others on their thoughts on UPA.

Most UG lab gear is underdosed or does not contain the claimed contents. UPA might not be fake, but it is relatively still a newcomer the market and nobody really knows how reliable they are. Do I think you can get 200mg tren E, 200mg test cyp, 200mg deca in 1ml? No. That's why I pay a bit more for PGW which always does the job.

I read a report on Sciencedirect about quantitative lab tests done on about 150 underground labs steroid oils that were tested, and only a third contained the claimed ingredients. Others were either heavily underdosed or contained other cheaper steroids.

Howsit ShaunV,

My opinion on blends is I don't like them. Would rather buy the compounds separately. Economically they look and sound good but do they walk the talk. Next point why did you change to a blend if you were feeling good on Test & Deca? Remember everytime you make a change to your protocol your body will need atleast a couple of weeks to adjust and that's what you could be feeling. 50mg change in your hormones doesn't sound like much but look at your current situation, you could be feeling the lag of your hormones adjusting so it doesn't necessarily mean your product is underdosed, give your body time before you make a judgement call on the product being underdosed. It's like making a good meal great one wrong ingredient in the meal could spoil it. Also ask the main forum members for their advice: @admin @Empire @Pump @Oupa. All I can say is stick to Protocol for a couple of weeks if you still don't feel good go for bloods.

I agree about the blends, they don't work for me.

I'd rather spend a bit more and buy individually.

NOS wrote: Howsit ShaunV,

My opinion on blends is I don't like them. Would rather buy the compounds separately. Economically they look and sound good but do they walk the talk. Next point why did you change to a blend if you were feeling good on Test & Deca? Remember everytime you make a change to your protocol your body will need atleast a couple of weeks to adjust and that's what you could be feeling. 50mg change in your hormones doesn't sound like much but look at your current situation, you could be feeling the lag of your hormones adjusting so it doesn't necessarily mean your product is underdosed, give your body time before you make a judgement call on the product being underdosed. It's like making a good meal great one wrong ingredient in the meal could spoil it. Also ask the main forum members for their advice: @admin @Empire @Pump @Oupa. All I can say is stick to Protocol for a couple of weeks if you still don't feel good go for bloods.

The only blend that has ever worked for me and felt like it had basically in what it said roughly was HD's supercut mix. The rest was a waste of money.

Thanks guys for the response. I should've trusted my common sense and went for the compounds separately.
Now.... what do I do with the rest of the blend? (6ml)

Do I toss it?
Because if its not "fake", I am thinking of buying loose 1ml ampules of Test and Deca to add in the vial.
Or is this just a dumb idea?

I have not heard from reliable sources of UPA being under dosed or fake or anything to that nature. I personally have never liked these mass mix blends but I'm not a chemist so I would be unqualified to know if one can squeeze out so much into a blend.

Howsit ShuanV, fifteen days is not nearly enough time to see if the blend is good. You have made one adjustment to your cycle. My opinion would be to use the 6ml you could be pleasantly surprised. Be patient sometimes the body needs time to adjust. If you don't come right you have learn't your body doesn't like blends. Personally blends are a no go. Why don't you buy Vials? What you don't use can be utilized for another cycle.

I have had no issues with their orals and injectables. Maybe the bulk mixes arent great, and that is from any brand, to be honest.

If there was 200mg Tren E in there as claimed you will most definitely feel it within 2 weeks. In these long ester blends tren E is most likely to be underdosed because it is the most difficult steroid to keep from falling out of solution at higher mg/ml when mixing with other gear.

You'll probably find the same problem with any brand of high dose blend mixes like previously mentioned.

Muscleaddict wrote: If there was 200mg Tren E in there as claimed you will most definitely feel it within 2 weeks. In these long ester blends tren E is most likely to be underdosed because it is the most difficult steroid to keep from falling out of solution at higher mg/ml when mixing with other gear.

You'll probably find the same problem with any brand of high dose blend mixes like previously mentioned.

i couldn't agree more, they do a 200mg tren en in a 10ml vial which is pretty damn good, i have seen my friends use it and get great results.

Hi Empire, what would be the purpose of these blends? In my mind it looks great on paper and on the budget. Like I said previously It would be better to buy each compound separately in a vial.

the purpose of the blends is to try and entice people to get more bang per ml than saturation will allow.

I remember when these hybrid things came out, syntrop was the big brand in the country, well it didn't last long due to the post-injection pain being OUT OF THIS WORLD!!

I mean I love UPA as a brand, their products work for me, even with low dose (250mg test and 200mg equi were great) but I still think that something that looks too good to be true, usually is.

Thank you guys for the response on this subject.

Just to give you some feedback on my experience:

I've started my cycle with Test Cyp 250 and Deca 100 (1ml each every 5days) x3 and noticed very good results in strength and size after only 2 weeks (sound's crazy right? Maybe because I haven't used anything for so long)
Then I switched over to the "blend" and everything changed. Within days I felt less superman and up until now absolutely no changes in my physique and my strength declined slowly.


I think I'll better just right it off as a lesson learned.
The fact that I don't know how much of what compound is actually in my body, I guess I'll just have to quit taking anything else and take a PCT withing a few weeks.

After reading your comments I also have to mention that the UPA brand is not in question, but the blend of compounds in general.