Beginner Cycle Feedback (My first Cycle)

Nos, that's really inspiring!

Definitely helps to keep one motivated.

I'm super confused hey. I checked now and the cankels are going away. So I don't know if it was because of all the standing this weekend. Was in Zimbabwe trying to get a CNC running and spent like 10 hours on my feet, both Saturday and Sunday. It's actually sore to the touch. Anyway, I still can't argue the fact that I'm carrying water. Like Pump said, 6.8kg in 20 days is definitely a red flag so I've dropped my cals way down to 2400 (400 below maintenance).

Let's see how this goes.

I purchased Tbol for my bridge, I guess that will also be a No No for this cycle?

Anyway, gents thank you for all your advice and guidance.

Hi Kevin.Kleyn,

Use the Tbol for another cycle. Rather lower your dose like I said previously, you will be better served adding MHR to your cycle. You need to lose bf first. You will look and feel so much better. 250mg Test Cyp is more than enough with MHR. It's a process remember most gymrats are not lean. You need to get lean first. Good luck and enjoy the process.

to be honest, I would just run 250mg of cyp for your first cycle, ride it out for a while and get that body fat down,


I remember when growing up we used to depotron AMPS, and each amp was 200mg of test, and 1 of those a week, it was like putting compost in your shoes and growing like a beast. now days people dont use anything less than that which is crazy.

I remember good old Depotron by Adcock. Good old memories. Good stuff and dirt cheap.

I hear you and trust me, I'm making use of your advice!

Like I said, I dropped cals to 2400 and I am now busy with the MHR purchase. Do you think I should get MHR as well as something like Yohimbine 10 or would MHR suffice?

No you won't need Yohimbine. Remember Kevin.Kleyn your diet is vital in the process. Empire has an abundance of knowledge and experience pick his brain for a few more tips.
All I can say is learn and get lean. Keep it simple

Clean your diet up and luister what people are telling you here.

Ek luister baie mooi Oupa. Ek het klaar my MHR bestel.

My dieet is nogal skoon, wel vandat ek begin het my cycle so ja, ek het bietjie werk om te doen maar ek waardeer almal se leiding en opinies.

My ore spits baie vinnig as julle manne praat.

Good luck Kevin.Kleyn let us know how your body responds to getting lean af. You must lower your dose of Test until you have a much better body composition. Look forward to hearing about your journey.

Thanks Bud!

MHR is on it's way. I've done a pin last night at the dosage that you suggested.

Let's get ripped AF as you say :evil:

Always a pleasure, watch the ankles even at 250mg a week you will have a higher estrogen conversion due to your bf. It should settle down, Let us also how the dieting goes.

@Nos, got my MHR today.

Maybe I'm just a lightweight but damn, that stuff reminds me of 18 years ago when I was still clubbing LOL!!!

But yeah 10mins into cardio and I'm sweating like a pig bud!

Will do a BF measurement in say 2-3 weeks from now and report back.

I do feel a bit naar after workout but it was leg day so who knows.

probably due to the nature of the combo of DHT derivatives in that product it does make you drop water fast.

Noted!

I might have to take MHR a couple of hours before workout instead of one hour before because I couldn't sleep last night. Only fell asleep after 12am, after taking double the usual dosage of sleeping tabs.

The nausea continued till about 9'ish. Will sus it out today and see if the nausea comes back during / post workout.

double dosing of sleeping tabs? how many cups of coffee/tea a day are you having? do you sleep with your cellphone in the room with you? do you sit up for hours watching tv before bed? Computer screen for hours before bed?

how old are you btw?

I think the biggest thing these days is people don't get enough sleep hence why they have problems with carbs and insulin sensitivity, but also I have found that over the years those pharma sleeping meds do not give me a deep sleep as other natural products do.

Maybe LesDoctor can chime in on the above.

So I've had problems with sleeping for the last 6 years or so, where I can fall asleep in 15mins or so but my problem is, I'll sleep for like 45 mins then I wake up and I'm then wide awake for the rest of the night where my brain doesn't switch off. Doctor put me on Dopaquel 50mng to help calm my brain so that I can sleep.

I'm 33 years old now.

My bed time is between 20h00 to latest 21h00. My phone is set to go to Silent Mode at 20h00, this is something that I did in the past to see if that'll help, before I got Dopaquel.

I'm not a huge fan of coffe ect. so I drink one cup in the morning and that is it. No tea or softdrinks either.

TV time is minimal because I get home at around 19h00 from gym, I pack my meals for the next day, pack my gym bag, have a quick shower then watch TV for about 30 - 45 mins, while I wait for the tabs to kick in.

Sleep for me is a big thing, I can't go to bed late because I hate that tired, scratchy eye feeling the next day so I always plan my things around my sleep time

Have you tried melatonin and GABA? Best to try a natural product.GABA will do nothing if you are already taking any kind of sleeping pill, otherwise it is worth a shot.

Least you not on a benzo.. melatonin can help, Gabatropin too, just watch as you can build a tolerance to it. Do you get restless leg or feel hung over the next day from the seroquel or do you find you tolerate it quite well, do you suffer from sleep apnea, that can be a reason why you waking up, also there is a ton of things you can do for good sleep hygiene.

yea dopaquel isn't the worst thing, I am biased towards CBD and I do believe in it wholeheartedly and it helps me drastically with anxiety and sleeping.

as stupid as this sounds, I would have your phone in another room, use an alarm clock.

I used to wake it in the middle of the night and just check the time, and it was a mess, when I put the phone in the other room it made a big difference.

Still a mind numbing drug that does have long term consequences like metabolic syndrome and and and.

i dont have too much experience with Dopaquel so i will have to take your work on that Pump. i dont doubt it would have that effect.

@Pump, I do have very mild restless legs yeah.

I feel pretty hungover the next day if I don't get enough sleep, that's actually quite funny that you should ask and I don't tolerate it very good either.


@Empire, I've tried a good 'ol joint as well to see if that'll help but that doesn't, but my guess is that you are referring to the oils lol.

not oils, there is tablet by a company called wild leaf infusions. And i cant stand feeling Goofed so i stay away from THC products

Kevin.Kleyn wrote: @Pump, I do have very mild restless legs yeah.

I feel pretty hungover the next day if I don't get enough sleep, that's actually quite funny that you should ask and I don't tolerate it very good either.


@Empire, I've tried a good 'ol joint as well to see if that'll help but that doesn't, but my guess is that you are referring to the oils lol.

Try the CBD but it might take a few nights to get used to the sleep adjustment, you don't necessarily get quality sleep on dopaquel as it suppresses REM sleep. There are other antipsychotics that have a positive effect like zyprexa, but still it isn't the solution for long term. Try the CBD and melatonin, if you still struggle then you need to add GABA. I find that doing mindful meditation has not only improved my ability to fall asleep but to stay asleep/ go back to sleep as you learn to stay in the present and take control of your busy mind. I currently use the calm app and find it's fantastic.

What is your carb intake like before bed?
Are you taking any shakes immediately before bed?

GABA should "help" pretty quickly but I would recommend trying 5-HTP.

Keep in mind this could throw you in the wrong direction , so-to-speak, but it would clearly indicate where your issues lie.

Throwing in quality multivitamin/mineral seems like a good start.