first cycle for men 50 years old

Good Afternoon

dont know if this is a very strange request but i need some advice from experienced guys .
i want to go on my first steriod cycle but here is the catch i am 50 years old -still in good health
i have never used before but used sarms for 25 days a few months ago, my aim is to gain lean muscle mass and lose weight
hoe to hear from you guys

Hi

Use testosterone only for your first cycle. 12 weeks and check in here. Your dosage will be depandant on your stats.

dennis1970 wrote: Good Afternoon

dont know if this is a very strange request but i need some advice from experienced guys .
i want to go on my first steriod cycle but here is the catch i am 50 years old -still in good health
i have never used before but used sarms for 25 days a few months ago, my aim is to gain lean muscle mass and lose weight
hoe to hear from you guys

Have you done blood work - specifically sex hormones?

At 50, how well do you expect to recover as you will shut down your HPG axis by blasting testosterone.

thanks for your concern and advice , i agree blasting T not good at my age . i plan to use about 125mg of t per week nothing else. Havent done bloodwork but know my T is low i have all the symptoms.my objective is too feel better and let the low dose of T give me some results for hard work in the gym. do you think i am on the right path?

dennis1970 wrote: thanks for your concern and advice , i agree blasting T not good at my age . i plan to use about 125mg of t per week nothing else. Havent done bloodwork but know my T is low i have all the symptoms.my objective is too feel better and let the low dose of T give me some results for hard work in the gym. do you think i am on the right path?

Low dose between your planned 125mg and 160mg per week would be a good start. Just T. Different guys react to and metabolise testosterone differently. For some 125mg would put them in a great T range of someone in their early 20's and for some it might not be enough.

Around 200mg long term and mpst men will have high red blood cell count which can cause some issues. The only way to know for sure is by doing bloodwork. If you don't plan to stay on testosterone then definitely get your levels checked so you have a baseline number to work with for recovery later on.

thanks , i will get bloodwork done, i have read somewhere on the forum that one get get bloodwork done at some labs without a doctor ordering bloodwork do you know if tho is correct?

as i have used sarms for 25 days and then stopped 12 days ago how long will i have to wait to get bloodwork done

sars used RAD 140 10mg and mk 677 10 mg

thanks for all the good advise so far

dennis1970 wrote: thanks , i will get bloodwork done, i have read somewhere on the forum that one get get bloodwork done at some labs without a doctor ordering bloodwork do you know if tho is correct?

Yep.
Lancet, Pathcare, Ampath can test privately.

dennis1970 wrote: thanks for your concern and advice , i agree blasting T not good at my age . i plan to use about 125mg of t per week nothing else. Havent done bloodwork but know my T is low i have all the symptoms.my objective is too feel better and let the low dose of T give me some results for hard work in the gym. do you think i am on the right path?

Yes and no.
If the bloodwork confirms low T, I don't think a cycle is wise.
You need to either correct the low T (pituitary adenoma or whatever else could be causing it), or otherwise you start a TRT protocol to keep your levels in the upper-normal range of a healthy man.

Probably best you send your bloods here before cycling and see if you need therapeutic intervention.

thanks i agree i am going to do bloodwork and then post it here for advise.
i appreciate the advise

thanks to all for advise . i am going to do bloodwork and then ask advise for trt or cycle after bloodwork results form the forum
i plan on posting progress and log to give guys my age some benchmark when i start the cycle

Morning

my bloodwork results arrived

total testosterone 1.3 should be between 9.9 and 27.8

free test - 38.8

shbg- 10.49

psa - 0.4

colesterol - 6.2

ldl- 4,7

hdl 0.7

what dose of test do you reccomend

thnks

glucose- 5.8

dennis1970 wrote: Morning

my bloodwork results arrived

total testosterone 1.3 should be between 9.9 and 27.8

free test - 38.8

shbg- 10.49

psa - 0.4

colesterol - 6.2

ldl- 4,7

hdl 0.7

what dose of test do you reccomend

thnks

glucose- 5.8

This confirms low T.
PSA looks good.

Are you planning on going to an endocrinologist/urologist for TRT?
I would assume a good protocol to start off would be 80-100mg test cyp a week.

Instead of doing a cycle, even taking 200mg a week should yield decent results.
It *should* put you above normal physiological levels.

I am assuming there is no other issue, LH and FSH could be more indicative of primary hypogonadism but I don't see those results.

Another edit: Seems like you are coming off Rad140 which is suppressive. So that is also another aspect to explore

thanks for the quick reply

my doc prescribed sustanol 1mil x injection every 3 weeks but i have read gps are not too good with trt, what do you think of his protocol i much prefer 3-7 day intervals with your dosages

In South Africa?

yes i have prescription doc in my hand but have not gone for injection yet

I think we do have sustanon here.

It costs like R300.00 per injection if I am correct.

Never seen a good justification for sustanon for TRT.
I think cypionate is the better option (Also it will cost a lot less...)
You should be injecting at home.

yes agree i am going to inject at home as you prescribed 100mg per week in 2 x injections with cyp, for 6 weeks and then do bloodwork agasin- does that sound right

dennis1970 wrote: yes agree i am going to inject at home as you prescribed 100mg per week in 2 x injections with cyp, for 6 weeks and then do bloodwork agasin- does that sound right

Since your doc gave you go-ahead for TRT, that sounds very reasonable.

i have just hit 50..... i live on sus250... a shot every 2 weeks, never felt better!

Petzer wrote: i have just hit 50..... i live on sus250... a shot every 2 weeks, never felt better!

Very old-school approach on your protocol.

I use lancet, same day results via their app.

its not cheap though, but they do it no questions asked

I have always found sus250 to work well, when real and at the correct strength. i like that it lasts long in the body. only problem is the quality of the 250..... i have had some duds!
right now i have 3 labs in my box. And my level of faith in them is not great! it seems you are sold more fakes now than the real thing.

That is always a pity. I have also noticed over the last few years my first choice of injectable underground brand dosing being off. The thing is I honestly don't mind paying far more than whatever the price might be to know for certain its dosed to the T.

I must say I did have years of fun with Susatnon.