Guidance on first cycle

Thanks again for all the great advice on the forum, much appreciated

after a bit of research I've decided to jump into my first cycle and just need some guidance to ensure if I'm on the correct path

Cyle is basic 8 weeks, just 200mg test cyp, 100mg twice a week, low dose aromasin in case of estrogen sides, nolvadex and clomid for pct as directed on site

goal is to pack on lean muscle during this phase and then follow up with a cut before December

training is upper/lower and LPP for a total of 5days a week, cardio for 3 days a week for 20min per day

current stats:

Age:32
Height:171cm
weight:76kg
bf:20%
Muscle Mass:56kg

Calories around 2500kcal to be adjusted upward if needed, macros 40 protein, 40 carb, 20 fat

any advice from the guys with experience would be appreciated

So got some great advice and that is to increase duration of cycle on that low of a dose of test to 12-16 weeks.

Follow up question would be that if I run this protocol for 12 weeks would hcg need to be included in the pct?

VFI wrote: So got some great advice and that is to increase duration of cycle on that low of a dose of test to 12-16 weeks.

Follow up question would be that if I run this protocol for 12 weeks would hcg need to be included in the pct?

12 weeks is a good idea, at 20 percent bodyfat I wouldn't increase my calories anymore than 2500 as you going to struggle to bring that down for December, start slowly doing it now.

I personally would run HCG around the last 2 weeks of your cycle, up untill you have waited out the testosterone half lives and then run the clomid/nolva.

VFI wrote: Thanks again for all the great advice on the forum, much appreciated

after a bit of research I've decided to jump into my first cycle and just need some guidance to ensure if I'm on the correct path

Cyle is basic 8 weeks, just 200mg test cyp, 100mg twice a week, low dose aromasin in case of estrogen sides, nolvadex and clomid for pct as directed on site

goal is to pack on lean muscle during this phase and then follow up with a cut before December

Goodluck and post updates.
Interested to hear what your progress is like on this dose of test.
Also keeping an AI on hand for such low dose is probably unnecessary, but rather be over prepared than under hey.

00pump wrote:

VFI wrote: So got some great advice and that is to increase duration of cycle on that low of a dose of test to 12-16 weeks.

Follow up question would be that if I run this protocol for 12 weeks would hcg need to be included in the pct?

12 weeks is a good idea, at 20 percent bodyfat I wouldn't increase my calories anymore than 2500 as you going to struggle to bring that down for December, start slowly doing it now.

I personally would run HCG around the last 2 weeks of your cycle, up untill you have waited out the testosterone half lives and then run the clomid/nolva.

Thanks Pump will do so

Donatello wrote:

VFI wrote: Thanks again for all the great advice on the forum, much appreciated

after a bit of research I've decided to jump into my first cycle and just need some guidance to ensure if I'm on the correct path

Cyle is basic 8 weeks, just 200mg test cyp, 100mg twice a week, low dose aromasin in case of estrogen sides, nolvadex and clomid for pct as directed on site

goal is to pack on lean muscle during this phase and then follow up with a cut before December

Goodluck and post updates.
Interested to hear what your progress is like on this dose of test.
Also keeping an AI on hand for such low dose is probably unnecessary, but rather be over prepared than under hey.

Thanks Donatello, will post updates, my worry was the level of aromatizstuon occurring at the high body fat percentage hence the AI, thus the over preparedness, will only implement the AI if absolutely have to

looking forward to see your progress

please post some before and after pics

jooceboi456 wrote: looking forward to see your progress

please post some before and after pics

Will do

VFI wrote: Thanks again for all the great advice on the forum, much appreciated

after a bit of research I've decided to jump into my first cycle and just need some guidance to ensure if I'm on the correct path

Cyle is basic 8 weeks, just 200mg test cyp, 100mg twice a week, low dose aromasin in case of estrogen sides, nolvadex and clomid for pct as directed on site

goal is to pack on lean muscle during this phase and then follow up with a cut before December

training is upper/lower and LPP for a total of 5days a week, cardio for 3 days a week for 20min per day

current stats:

Age:32
Height:171cm
weight:76kg
bf:20%
Muscle Mass:56kg

Calories around 2500kcal to be adjusted upward if needed, macros 40 protein, 40 carb, 20 fat

any advice from the guys with experience would be appreciated

If mass=76Kg and BF 20% how do you know your muscle mass is 56Kg?

If I look at the overall level of your BF%, training regime and diet I don't think you have enough experience for a cycle yet. First master the best diet for your body including the best macro split, perfect form in the gym and training regimes, see what your body responds to the best like low weight high volume or high weight low volume. If you have questions I am here to help.