Lean Muscle Gain Cycle

Hi Guys

I am starting with my 3rd cycle soon. I need some advice on which anabolic steroid combinations will work for a 10-12 week cycle. I have previously done 250mg testocyp weekly, however after pct I lost pretty much all gains. I am 35yrs old, 1.77m and my weight is 85kg.

Please also share your experience with combining anabolic steroids.

Thanks

stephanus wrote: Hi Guys

I am starting with my 3rd cycle soon. I need some advice on which anabolic steroid combinations will work for a 10-12 week cycle. I have previously done 250mg testocyp weekly, however after pct I lost pretty much all gains. I am 35yrs old, 1.77m and my weight is 85kg.

Please also share your experience with combining anabolic steroids.

Thanks

That's the way it goes. It doesn't matter what you take - when you come off you slowly but surely lose all the gains over and above your natural genetic limit.

Very young guys tend to keep more of their gains because on their first couple of cycles they are way off from their potential when they start.

Losing everything is either because you are over your genetic limit, your PCT failed or you didnt maintain the training.

I have run a few cycles and although I lose a bit it definitely isnt all of it.

Did you get bloods done before and after to see if you did recover properly?

Apologies for the hijack.
MA and Syntax, how do you guys calculate genetic limit? This is assuming natural production not generous trt.
I've seen lots of differing opinions online, keen to get yours.

Genetic limit is the mass you keep without any funny shit. Genetically im a big dude, so i can pack on solid pounds and keep it just by means of training and diet. Smaller built men loose alot of mass once they off cycle.

Donatello wrote: Apologies for the hijack.
MA and Syntax, how do you guys calculate genetic limit? This is assuming natural production not generous trt.
I've seen lots of differing opinions online, keen to get yours.

As Oupa said, its the natural limit of muscle your body can take. It does not have to do with test production.
You will likely see as you get closer to this the less you keep and in some instances you cant keep anything without some form of performance enhancers.

There is no real way to calculate your limit as this is based on you as an individual but I reckon you could get ball park figures based on height for example. Although I have seen tall guys struggle to keep muscle and shorter guys pack it on with ease.
We all different

TRT helps you hold on to muscle even over your genetic limit am I wrong or right in saying this?

BDav wrote: TRT helps you hold on to muscle even over your genetic limit am I wrong or right in saying this?

Yip, with a big factor being the free testosterone levels.
Also depends on the amounts, eg someone running a generous 'sports' trt of 200mg per week can maintain more lean mass than someone on regular replacement trt like 100 or 120mg per week.
This is my understanding, based on my reading into the subject.