Winny strenght gains

Hey guys 

So I dont see alot of talk about winstrol on the forums anymore, what I would just like to hear are your experiences with it, especially regarding strength.

Ive done 7-8 cycles stop counting after a while so not sure on the exact number

for me Winstrol @ 50 mg per (with a test base) increases my strength like nothing else, better strength gains then dbol, a-bombs, anavar. cant say about Tren as iv only done tren ace for like 2 weeks at a low low dose but stopped, turned me into a complete asshole, and im not angry in general, but that made me angry so i stopped

What is your personal experiences with winny and strenght. BTW for some reason I dont get the joint issues. max i have gone on winstrol was 6 weeks.

Does not matter if its at the start of the, middle or end, my strenght with winny shoots up like no other compound 

There is a reason why it's the drug of choice when it comes to sprinters etc. Gives you great strength for little weight gain, which keeps sprinters faster but lighter..so if you are using it for gaining weight not gonna be the greatest oral of choice..

As for strength gains, try tbol,. That is magic for strength.

Thank you! yes I havent tried tbol yet. I aprreciate you taking the time to reply, as time is the most valuable thing.

Ive been been up to 90kg @1.68m not sliced and diced but with visible abs. Im now weiging 102.... after not training for 4 years. I see the methodology on the dosage of test has changed quite a bit from the 500mg @ test as your standard.

And I must say i Agree, I have been as high as 1000mg of test-sonly compound used, used letro with that... had no sex drive on a gram of test.... i Did gain alot of size on that cycle, alot prob not lean tissue, and i was not at my strongest when using a gram of test as the only compund

@empire Im going to be using 300mg test E + 200mg Masteron @ 200mg

My goal is to go down to +-80kg

SO having done this for 12 (years) before my 4 year break, I have never used T3

How long can one run it and what is the recommended dosage.

16 week cycle, calorie deficit. I am aware i will lose muscle but beeing in the gym for 2 months, natural and looking and how my strenght has jumped there is stil a considerable amount of muscle underneath the blubber

It is all dependent.

What is your starting weight and body fat %? What is you calorie deficit. I would start on t4 than just jumping into t3.

The way that the body works is when in a deficit your body pushes up TSH to keep t4 levels high. So after a certain point you add in a small dose of t4, after a certain few more weeks you can up the t4 a little more, at this stage the liver starts to lower tsh as there is an abundance of t4 in the system, and then through the liver it converts t4 into t3 but due to abundance of thyroid hormone now, the body can convert into t3 aswell as inactive rT3 which is seen as t3 but it is completely inactive, so then that is when you would add in t3 to keep metabolism running. If you start with t3 too high to start, the body still kicks out rt3 and makes your t3 usage inactive as tsh levels start to fall to 0.

Every single person is completely different, every client I work with is different. If you are prepping for a shoe vs getting beach lean requires a different approach.

I can't give out numbers generically cos I don't know what you are currently doing.

Also if your deficit is high you need to fill in the balance with Milligrams to maintain muscle mass.

TSH 1.17 0.27-4.20 mIU/l Ref

thats my current TSH level as of a week ago

so by this low number I assume from what i have read my thyroid output is stil banging and dont need t3 anyway?

With a tsh like that it shows you in a calorie surplus. Looking at your t3 and t4 levels in that blood test would give you an indication if they have tanked or not.

 

I must say winny is my favourite oral. Crazy strength relative to side effects. It's incredible how much strength one can gain even on a slight caloric deficit with winny. Anavar close second, but var messes with my stomach and appetite.

I stick to 30mg Winny for 6-7 weeks at a time, or 20mg Winny + 20mg Anavar. Enough for the benefits without noticeable side effects.

Ok last Question, and i Know this is a bit unrelated to the title,

So when i was still in the game, the reccomended amount of protein per kg body weigh was 2g.

when dieting 3g per kg of bodyweight.

What i was wondering should this number not be based on actual lean tissue? For me to consume 300 gram of protein per day in going to be P@es expensive

Try a tbol and anavar combo. You will be shocked.

Im on between 260 and 300 a day depending on the day.

Its not too bad, Eggs, chicken breast, pork etc.. Not cheap, but not bank breaking

So ove been on tbol for a couple of days @ only 20mg..... Joly shit im impressed. Didnt expect the endurance gains. Like cardio feels easy now, more reps on same wright aswell. How long can i run it for @20mg. Taking 300mg trst e and 200mg mast e aswell. But wouldnt have made such a diffference as my first eeekly injection was saturday. Could i run tbol @20mg for 16 weeks?

Rule for orals is do not exceed your body weight in kg, for days in kgs..

So 100kg male should not run more than 100mg for 100days.