Tbol and Var

Good Day fellas.

Okay, so Broderick Chavez said something about Anavar + Tbol having an inexplicable but pronounced synergy.1. Since Test and Tbol are under the same branch in the Anabolics "Family Tree" should one still run Tbol if they're having Test as a base.2. Running 2 orals at the same time? Yay or nay?3. Also, would 20mg Var + 20mg Tbol make much sense? (Running it with 250mg Test)4. I don't know if my problem is navigating through this new site, but I can't seem to find that OG table with Ancillaries of each drug, and rating out of 10 (e.g Dbol for mass 8/10, for cutting 4/10, side effects 5/10) - something along these lines, of course my numbers aren't correct here.

Thanks,

Regards

Broderick says that the synergy is more apparent for women vs men just so you know that.

1. Yes you would still run test aswell as tbol.

2. 2 orals at the same time is fine, many do it in a contest prep, but remember, your appetite is going to go to a ball of shit hence why you want to use orals on a cut more so than a bulk.

3. Remember you have to look at total MGs per week. If you are a mid level competitor you would be able to get away with a peak dosing of 10mg per kg, pushing it at 15mg. Most guys get away with 10mg if training is good with solid nutrition. I've had clients gain 7kgs lbm on 6mg per kg.

So 280mg of anabolics( 20mg of each oral daily is 40mg x 7 days) probably would still Lead you to a good solid gain.

4 that table isn't really too accurate from a real world application vs hypothesis of on paper.

Also what is your goal, as there would probably be better combos depending on goal, body type, genetic structure, body fat % etc.

Thanks Empire.

The goal is just body composition more than anything, if I can hover around the same body weight, 85 - 90 kgs, but change in terms of physique - wouldn't mind something similar to Obi Vincent.

I would like to believe I'm a combination of Ecto and Endomorph - I'm definitely not a Meso, I'm skinny fat.

Currently running just Test C @ 250mgs, was thinkinh of adding the Tbol and Var for like 6 weeks @ the 20mg each dose.

I think you are going to be disappointed with 6 weeks of those orals at those doses. You've given no other stats really.

85-90kgs is a big variance in terms of scale weight. Are you 85kgs now or 90kgs now? Cos those would change caloric intake.

What is your current caloric intake?

What is your current training plan look like?

How much cardio are you doing?

Why are you only wanting to do 6 weeks? Recomps can take a better part of 12-16 weeks to be really visible.

Okay, I have this thought process of "orals never longer than 6 weeks" must be a misinformation/myths of some sort.

Currently weighing 85 kgs, when I say I'd love to hover this weight is I don't mind staying here or going up to 90, but the scale shouldn't my deciding factor.

Currently at 2705 calories daily - weigh out every single meal (not sure if I need to break down my entire food plan).

Only do 15 mins cardio on leg days (Mondays and Thurs)
Monday Quads
Tues Back and Bis
Wed Chest and Delts
Thurs Hammies
Friday Arms
Sat + Sun - Rest

I use Fat Secret to calculate

M1:
2 scoops hardcore whey gh
1tb peanut butter
100g Oats

M2:
4 whole eggs
180g Rice

M3:
1 Tb Olive oil
180g Rice
170g Chicken Breast

Post Workout Shake/Meal 4
50g Malto Dextrin
30g Whey Isolate

M5
Can of pilchard (215g)
200g Rice

Look 6 weeks can be a good rule of measure, but another way is do not exceed your body weight in mgs. So 80kgs =80mgs total for your body weight in days so 80kgs =80 days.

Look longer lower slower always works and if you are are cutting then orals are good as they kill appetite.. 2700 kcal might be ok for calorie intake but if you want to recomp you gonna have to increase your step count and do an average amount of cardio to put yourself into a deficit, slight deficit at this time.