PGW

Hi Gents, have PGW ever been faked that any1 knows of?

nope y? u got a batch with the new labels? they looks sweet

djeasye wrote:

nope y? u got a batch with the new labels? they looks sweet

i'm on the end of my 3rd week of 600mg and have not noticed anything.No strength,no weight gain,no sides, no nothing, just hot flushes.

Was wondering if i got bunk gear, cause my 1st 10ml i got from some1 who knows some who knows some1. My 2nd bottle i got through the right channels.

Maybe i should just be patient........LOL

patience is key,it should kick in soon,thats why u should always front load a test en cycle with dbol

Test En takes about 4 weeks to kick in.
The new label also confused me a little, I also thought it was suspect.
Haven't started using the new label vial yet.

@andre300
You just on Test En ???

djeasye wrote:

patience is key,it should kick in soon,thats why u should always front load a test en cycle with dbol

Yep, I agree 100%. But some guys don't like the dbol sides, like bloating, back ache, night sweats etc.

And fark, I got everyone of those.

I think I will front load with Test Prop or something next cycle.

@ extreme

For now. Ending my cycle with some Var & Winny

Then just wait, it will kick in (another week or so).

Extreme wrote:

Then just wait, it will kick in (another week or so).

Yep, should start see results after 4 weeks.

The long esters only reach stable levels after 4-5 weeks. If you don't wanna kickstart the cycle with the dirty Dbol or painful prop then just front load the testen at double dose for the first two jabs. With this frontload the testen will reach stable levels much sooner, about two weeks, and the effects are felt much sooner.

With my current cycle I frontloaded the testen and threw in 3 weeks of Dbol to kickstart as well. Feelin really swole at the beginning of week three far beyond what the Dbol's capabilities are alone.

will remeber that 4 my next cycle.

But 4 now i'll be patient.

Inja wrote:

The long esters only reach stable levels after 4-5 weeks. If you don't wanna kickstart the cycle with the dirty Dbol or painful prop then just front load the testen at double dose for the first two jabs. With this frontload the testen will reach stable levels much sooner, about two weeks, and the effects are felt much sooner.

With my current cycle I frontloaded the testen and threw in 3 weeks of Dbol to kickstart as well. Feelin really swole at the beginning of week three far beyond what the Dbol's capabilities are alone.

Be careful with frontloading of test, it wil cause receptor saturation and hinder gains in the later part of your cycle. Equi is about the only compound I advise frontloading on due to ester. This could also be why your are feeling like you do. If you do plan to go the frontload route I would incorporate some Protobol in your cycle to open the receptors.

Netro wrote:

Inja wrote:

The long esters only reach stable levels after 4-5 weeks. If you don't wanna kickstart the cycle with the dirty Dbol or painful prop then just front load the testen at double dose for the first two jabs. With this frontload the testen will reach stable levels much sooner, about two weeks, and the effects are felt much sooner.

With my current cycle I frontloaded the testen and threw in 3 weeks of Dbol to kickstart as well. Feelin really swole at the beginning of week three far beyond what the Dbol's capabilities are alone.

Be careful with frontloading of test, it wil cause receptor saturation and hinder gains in the later part of your cycle. Equi is about the only compound I advise frontloading on due to ester. This could also be why your are feeling like you do. If you do plan to go the frontload route I would incorporate some Protobol in your cycle to open the receptors.

Is it ok to run Test prop for 4 weeks at the same time running Test E. Then stop the Prop after 4 weeks and carry on with the Test E. Or is that too much Test in the system over the 1st 4 weeks?

shaun that is possible to do that,the test prop will be like a front load like dianabol is...

djeasye wrote:

shaun that is possible to do that,the test prop will be like a front load like dianabol is...

Thanks DJ. That's what I thought.

Just wondered though about running 750mg Prop and 750mg En at the same time. Even though the En esters are long, it's still a gram and a half of Test going into the body for 4 weeks.

i hear u bro... in my "bank breaker cycle thread" i am going to be using 700mg of test a week...1 jab every day...its gonna be ummm "fun"

djeasye wrote:

i hear u bro... in my "bank breaker cycle thread" i am going to be using 700mg of test a week...1 jab every day...its gonna be ummm "fun"

Yeah, I saw that. It looks like a helluva cycle.

Enjoy those everyday jabs with the Prop see. Heh heh.

Netro wrote:

Be careful with frontloading of test, it wil cause receptor saturation and hinder gains in the later part of your cycle. Equi is about the only compound I advise frontloading on due to ester. This could also be why your are feeling like you do. If you do plan to go the frontload route I would incorporate some Protobol in your cycle to open the receptors.

It could be a factor in my gains plaeauing quicker at the end of the cycle but I think its a tradeoff for the gains coming in quicker at the beginning of the cycle.
Apart from the sharp spike in the beginning the duration of the cycle minus the first two weeks is at the desired stable levels and that's what I like about the aproach.

I've never really believes in the receptor sensitizing of methandriol but it's been years since I looked into the stuff. I'll look it up again and see if I can be coconvinced as to its use. Thanks.

Look into it, long time users like the effect.

Well, if you have issues with gains tapering at the end of your cycle the you have proviron or oral winny to help there as well. Nice inclusion if you it is a pattern with your cycles or you should rethink your strategy a little.

Netro wrote:

Well, if you have issues with gains tapering at the end of your cycle the you have proviron or oral winny to help there as well. Nice inclusion if you it is a pattern with your cycles or you should rethink your strategy a little.

Yeah I was considering it for this cycle but somehow the idea got lost in all the nonsense going on in my head right now. Might still add them in towards the end of my current cycle. The best way to be sure of something is often just to try it
Thanks bro