Female's and anabolic steroids

My girlfriend is preety keen on trying something? She is 27yo, 42kg,percentage bodyfat 8-10%. What would you guys/girls suggest would be suitable for a lady? (to build some muscle, min side effects)

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I would not be injecting your lady with anything until you understand what it does to the female body and hormonal cycle.

Enthusiasts generally use Anavar, 10mg p/day and a good fat burner. Liqui Burn or Lava, if she is brave then HEAT or Clen.

I am also assuming she has a good diet and training regime and she is just looking to tone etc

Let BeeSting have a crack at this one as I am sure she can give some real life advice due to the same gender.

As Netro said....

Learn all you can about females and any type of performance enhacher / steroid. Even more so that you would learn for a guy...

Anavar is a good point, very low doses of winstrol <--- still scary, and ye, some or other fat burner, that may contain some clen at low dose...

my girlfriend works with her hands, so even small doses fo clen is a danger as she gets the shakes....

all I can say is be careful!!!! and 8/10% bodyfat? shoe.... thats lower than amutuars step on stage, my g/f is competing at fame and is at 14% and excuse me, but is she not suffering with her monthly cycle because of that %?

NO go dude.

I say unless the lady is planning to compete I she should not take anything.

females can generally use either Primo acetate or Anavar ...

but i agree, do some homework on how it affects a woman period cycle ... doesn't happen to every woman, but i' know some ladies that have had some strange experiences.



WOT

I think var is a good starting point. 10mg/ day split into two doses. The dose is low that the side effects should be minimal and depending on how her body reacts there may not be any.Var doesn't convert to oestrogen so this will not increase her oestrogen levels. I've been taking the pill, even when on var to help maintain my hormones so I think she should consider that, if not already.
I've been on Var for 4 weeks now and have had no noticable side effects, except for muscle growth .
Can i just ask what her height is because 42kg is pretty low in weight and can be worrying if she is above 1.5m.

Clen is a problem when working with ur hands because I find it difficult in the lab but if u take it continuously with ketotifen then the shakes only last a few days and there after the shakes aren't noticable. However considering that she only weighs 42kg with 8-10% body fat I wouldn' recommend a fat burner. Its unhealthy for a woman to have a body fat % below 15% as this interferes with the hormonal profile and has many implications.

Does she know how to train to build muscle? No point taking roids if you aren't experienced in weight training and know how to eat for optimal muscle growth which I'm sure you know but the same applies to women. Steroids aren't gonna magically make her get a muscular figure. Any woman who weighs only 42kg can build lots of muscle without needing steroids bud.

The reason why I am worried about her fat % is that this may alredy be intrefering with her hormonal profile so who knows what the addition of gear will further do to her hormonal profile. I think she should get that checked out before even considering gear.

Hey bro,
I hope that by asking this question you are starting your learning curve long before you are planning her cycle. I spent a very long time researching anabolics and women before I started by gf on her first cycle.
One of the best things you can do is get her involved in educating herself about anabolics. Everything I told my gf never really sunk in until she started researching for herself. In fact you might even think about bringing her to this forum. G-d knows we need more women here.

That being said does your chick compete or is she planning to? I am in agreement that her body fat is really very low. She must be very lean with not a lot of muscle mass. Have you been training her for muscle for a while already? I think with that body fat she can do a lot of growth without anabolics. Does she push herself like you push yourself? Does she hit the free weights and not just sissy about on the cardio equipment? Although it can be quite taboo it is important to note that women should by all means train like men. There is no difference between the two when it comes to gaining mass.

With a weight like that she must be on a very low cal diet. Before considering anabolics you should first make sure she is getting the most out of an anabolic diet and supplementation routine. I think you should focus on increasing her calories and increasing her protein. Get her some essential muscle building suppelements. Gln, Creatine, etc... These will help her pack on the mass.

When it comes to anabolics, when she is finally ready, then the key is short esters. Because of the risk of virilizing side effects short esters are the only thing a woman should take. Anavar is a great start. My chick was able to grow fine on 10mg a day. When we went up to 15mg a day her pumps were insane and muscle mass showed an instant jump, but we've gone back to 10mg's for now because 15 might be a little to potent. Women generally do not take more that 25mg a day but there are some that go higher. Other compound include low dose winnie, although this is slightly more androgenic than var and thus slightly riskier. Woman also do well on about 20mg a day of testosterone propionate if she is not afraid to inject, though I think this compound will be way to anabolic for your lady at this moment.

I know most athletes do not use the pill because of water retention etc.. The pill is a good way of keeping hormones at some semblance of normal as Beesting said, but I too am also curious about her current hormone profile. Is she on a long term contraceptive that completely blocks her hormone cycle? This seems the only way that she would be able to maintain this body weight.

Are you educated about side effects? Different women react differently of course. Some show a soar in libido, while others (like my gf) have no sex drive whatsoever when on cycle. Women are susceptable to many of the same risks as men. Kidney, liver, and heart are all important areas for concern. Virilizing symptoms like depening of the voice, hair growth, enlargement of the clitoris, can occuir in varying degrees in different women and can be potentially permanent. Acne often presents itself in women on anabolics, is she ready for this?

I hope that this gets you started but I think you have a lot of educating to do and a lot of work to do with your young lady before she considers anabolics.
I will reaffirm my earlier points, your chick needs to eat better, she needs to train harder, and she needs to perfect her supplementation. Give her a few months on an altered diet and training programme and she will pack on the mass. Once you are both educated and she has a better physique then yo can both consider putting her on anabolics.

I hope to hear from you both on this forum in the near future.
Inja

Thanks for all the advice guys. Just to give you a little more info - She previously had problems with her menstrual cycle due to low % bodyfat, she is on combined oral contraception and it does keep her cycle very regular. Diet - she eats pretty clean, apart from the usual cravings she generally follows a low cal diet. She is mainly an endurance fanatic, cardio. Doesn't do much weights at all. I think as Inja suggested the best approach would be to work on her nutrition (increase protein intake for a start) and introduce some regular weight traning. Should see some decent results without the introduction of anabolics.

Will see how it goes and possible give you some updates.

Yeah bro good choice.
Remember alot of everything that applies to men applies to women with regards to training and nutrition. I'm sure one day she will be ready for an anabolic cycle.
If she wants muscle you should invite her to train with you... Take it easy on her though and introduce her to free weights slowly. I started training with my gf and it made a massive improvement. Jay Cutler and his wife train together in some of his videos...
Buy her some Fitness mags (Muscle evolution spin off). It seems to be becoming a reasonable mag lately.

WOT wrote:

females can generally use either Primo acetate or Anavar ...

but i agree, do some homework on how it affects a woman period cycle ... doesn't happen to every woman, but i' know some ladies that have had some strange experiences.



WOT

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vega5 wrote:

WOT wrote:

females can generally use either Primo acetate or Anavar ...

but i agree, do some homework on how it affects a woman period cycle ... doesn't happen to every woman, but i' know some ladies that have had some strange experiences.



WOT

This is for WOT. Tell me you got your profile pic off the net?

it was a self pic after a bad run of gyno lol

WOT wrote:

vega5 wrote:

WOT wrote:

females can generally use either Primo acetate or Anavar ...

but i agree, do some homework on how it affects a woman period cycle ... doesn't happen to every woman, but i' know some ladies that have had some strange experiences.



WOT

This is for WOT. Tell me you got your profile pic off the net?

it was a self pic after a bad run of gyno lol

Then I must give you a compliment on your really nice gyno boobs. They're the best i've ever seen.

vega5 wrote:

WOT wrote:

vega5 wrote:

WOT wrote:

females can generally use either Primo acetate or Anavar ...

but i agree, do some homework on how it affects a woman period cycle ... doesn't happen to every woman, but i' know some ladies that have had some strange experiences.



WOT

This is for WOT. Tell me you got your profile pic off the net?

it was a self pic after a bad run of gyno lol

Then I must give you a compliment on your really nice gyno boobs. They're the best i've ever seen.

daily mammary massages are the key ...