What is it???

Hey guys, before I carry on thank you for all the help so far it's really been a big help
I recently bought a product called "super anadrol" by muscle extreme. the only ingredient is 2a-17a-dimethyl-5a-androst-3-one.
what I would like to know is whether or not I could use this product on it's own with reasonable results? and whether or not I need to follow it up with a mild PCT?
Thanx again :bow

It's superbol... use by itself or cycle with test ect.

PCT must be used...

Thanx for you're advice.
would you say a full PCT is necessary, or just a SERM like nolva, and maybe some tribulus?

The PCT for Superbol is HOT

Jay just my 2c .. why use a prohormone with sides equal to actual AAS when you can just go for the real thing?

good point dirk, I've tried a few cycles and have always front loaded with dbol. My gym partner suggested this stuff saying that it was pretty awesome, so I wanted to compare the two myself now gotta use the shit I was saving for my next cycle as PCT now... quite bummed... might just use the kesser though

also was told that the sides are nothing to be worried about?:huh:

Jayman wrote:

also was told that the sides are nothing to be worried about?:huh:

Have a look on this site there was a discussion about Superbol.

I don't like prohormones, for me they great while I'm taking them but when I come off they go down the toilet.

If you just doing a Superbol cycle use HOT as your PCT!!!

you mean use a "hot" PCT as in strong? or is there a product called "Hot"?

There is a product called HOT which has been specifically designed to be the PCT.

Search the forum, admin or netro posted a picture of if.

bro thanx a million will look for it quick, what exactly is it?

just checked out the thread, scary to say the least.
there seams to be alot of mixed emotions on this product, from my research into it, the sides are really negligable although you guys tend to disagree

just checked the net for more info and came across something very interesting...

ATD (3,17-dioxo-etiochol-1,4,6-triene) is a recent introduction to estrogen control. It is thought to stop estrogen production in a manner similar to steroidal AI’s such as exemestane. Brand name ATD’s are Rebound XT, Rebound Reloaded, Novedex XT, Ultra H.O.T and Ultra H.O.T.ter.

ATD is technically an aromatase inhibitor, but with some interesting properties that make it a very useful addition to estrogen control.

There are two negative feedback loops that we try to correct through post cycle therapy. The first is elevated estrogen levels from aromatase activity act on the hypothalamus to decrease GnRH production. The second is that elevated androgen levels stimulate androgen receptors in the hypothalamus causing decreased GnRH production. Decreased GnRH leads to reduced LH and FSH production, both of which are directly involved in testosterone production.

Typical PCT with SERM’s and AI’s address the estrogen component of this negative feedback, but do nothing for androgenic stimulation of the hypothalamus. ATD addresses the androgenic feedback loop. ATD has 90% androgenic activity in muscle tissue but only 10% androgenic activity in the hypothalamus.

ATD works for androgen activity the same way that tamoxifen works for estrogen. Tamoxifen blocks estrogen in breast tissue, but has positive effects in other tissue such as liver and bone. ATD blocks androgens in the hypothalamus, but allows it to be active in other tissue.

Because of this dual action estrogen levels are lowered while testosterone levels begin to rise. This is because ATD tricks your hypothalamus into thinking testosterone levels are low so it produces more. ATD provides benefits far beyond simply controlling estrogen in your body. Through its control over the androgen negative feedback loop testosterone production is restarted much faster. And the faster you recover your natural testosterone production the easier it is to keep muscular gains.

In addition to ATD’s benefits for post cycle therapy studies have shown that employing ATD during AAS use maintains significant HPTA function. This means reduced testicular atrophy and faster post-cycle recovery. This is something that you simply can’t get from estrogen control alone.

ATD can also be used by the natural athlete to increase testosterone production. In studies increases of up to 400% in testosterone have been seen. This is equivalent to injecting 400-600mg per week of testosterone enanthate or cypionate. This means continued growth for the natural athlete without the problems and side effects usually associated with injecting testosterone.

“Discussion on running SERM inverse to ATD
Estrogen only “rebounds” based on the mechanism of suppression. SERM, for example, only masks estrogen expression by occupying receptors but estrogen production is left unchecked and actually increases as testosterone levels increase. AI’s like letro inhibit inducible enzymes and just like a leaky faucet, they body will eventually try to balance the equation with increased aromatase activity. Steroidal AI’s like Teslac, Exemestane, and ReboundXT will not result in ‘rebound’ phenomena because the inhibition is non-competitive and irreversible. They act as false substrates, so aromatase is still happy to act on them (instead of androstenedione) and the body keeps no record of an imbalance. There is no leaky faucet. In fact, after prolonged use, steroidal AI’s often produce a protracted anti-e benefit even after being discontinued. This is why I suggest an inverse taper with SERM and RXT for PCT with an abrupt stoppage of RXT at the end. As the SERM elevates androgen/estrogen production, the AI dose is increased to compensate while the SERM is phased out. It works quite well to use this approach and rebound is not encountered. Adding LX and/or DHEA also really makes for a killer PCT in this scheme.


so ATD's are in theory better than SERM's?

I have used it a couple of times and it WORKS. Gained a good amount of muscle wilts reducing body fat. side effects nothing you notice really, just a lower back pain now and again. Kept most of my gains just by using clomid and a test booster.

I've been researching these ATD's and found novadex xt to come up pretty often.
It's essentially the same as ultra H.O.T so I'm gonna give that a try
hope I'm doing the right thing...

hey guys just a quick one,
for my super anadrol cycle I've decided to run the novadex xt with some original nolvadex and about 2000mg tribulus a day for my pct.
would that be sufficient?

How were the gains jayman?

@ Jayman...off the topic but you and tiny have the same avatar, just in case you want to know and change it

Isnt it Superdrol and not Superbol???

Anyways , My PCT was kessar

Drink loads of water , as it give hectic kidney pains.

As for cycling it with something else. Every where I read advised not to cycle it with anything.

I could be wrong.

Only major side I got was shutdown on the second time I took it.


( google superdrol for dummies, there is a good post somewhere on the PCT)

Thanks acid how were your gains?

FOund the PCT thanks

Kessar

Week 1 - 40 mg
Week 2 - 40mg
Week 3 - 20mg
Week 4 - 10mg



How long did you run it for ....the article says 3 weeks :huh:

Week 1 - 10mg
Week 2 - 20mg
Week 3 - 20mg

Well if it is the same as Superdrol:

I used two different kinds of Superdrol:

The one with the purple label , gave me like 8kg in one month.
Most of which was water retention. Of the 8kg I kept maybe 2kg.

The other one with the red and black label , Not much gains but it kept my
weight constant , and muscle quality was pretty good. Maybe 1-2 kg gains.

I have constantly cuttting my BF, so my weights are always up and down.

Just remember the water , for kidney pains.

I also experienced night sweats .

for 4-5 KG lean muscle
Super anadrol(prohormone) , anavar or OT(AAS)?

hey guys sorry have kinda forgotten about this thread:blush:
haha
@hulkman the gains were pretty descent hey, went from 85/86 up to 92 (diet wasn't exactly perfect so I know I could've gained more)
and I've maintained that weight up until 2 or so weeks ago when I started my diet.
also lost body fat so will def be running this stuff again soon

do you recommend running letro with it?