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24 Jul 2009 14:01 #18300
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Gents, i'm confused, would like to get more opinions.
1stly this is not for me its for my brother in law.
i have spoken 2 a couple of guys now who say its fine to take nolva as PCT after a test,deca cycle, as the deca is out of your system by the time u start with the nolvadex.
whats you'lls opinions on that.Is nolva always a no no after deca cycle. I can understand that you cant take it during cycle.
1stly this is not for me its for my brother in law.
i have spoken 2 a couple of guys now who say its fine to take nolva as PCT after a test,deca cycle, as the deca is out of your system by the time u start with the nolvadex.
whats you'lls opinions on that.Is nolva always a no no after deca cycle. I can understand that you cant take it during cycle.
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24 Jul 2009 15:53 #18304
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bumpy di bump
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24 Jul 2009 16:02 #18306
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Well, you can use Kessar/Nolvadex in your PCT only if you are using Aromasin as well.
Deca stays in your system for a very long time... think it is 1.5 years, although by that time it will be very minute traces only.
Kessar (SERM) + progesterone will cause lactating gyno, because the SERM will bind to the estrogen receptor and send a false signal similar to estrogen. Then the added progesterone will make your body respond, thinking that you are pregnant and cause you to lactate...
Deca stays in your system for a very long time... think it is 1.5 years, although by that time it will be very minute traces only.
Kessar (SERM) + progesterone will cause lactating gyno, because the SERM will bind to the estrogen receptor and send a false signal similar to estrogen. Then the added progesterone will make your body respond, thinking that you are pregnant and cause you to lactate...
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24 Jul 2009 16:08 #18308
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so best pct would be clom & hcg
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24 Jul 2009 17:00 #18310
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Best would be, Aromasin, Clomid, hCG and Kessar.
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Aromasin, Clomid and hCG
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Aromasin, Clomid and hCG
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26 Jul 2009 11:07 #18326
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On my previous cycle i ran TestProp for a bit longer than the NPP. I also only started the Kessar after the Clomid - all this to avoid ptogesterone Gyno.
The Kessar helped ALOT. everything fell in place after i started Kessar so i would recommend it even if you start it later in PCT as i did.
The Kessar helped ALOT. everything fell in place after i started Kessar so i would recommend it even if you start it later in PCT as i did.
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26 Jul 2009 14:41 #18335
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Sorry if I offend you
Its just my point of view
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Tamoxifen is a very weak activator of the estrogen receptor in breast tissue. This is the reason its used to treat estrogen responsive breast cancer.
I've never gotten lactating man-boobs using kessar after a cycle including deca...
I've never gotten lactating man-boobs using kessar after a cycle including deca...
Sorry if I offend you
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20 Aug 2009 19:20 #20583
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is it f:unsure: ine to use nolva after a equepoise cycle?
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20 Aug 2009 20:03 #20584
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Sure, only with 19-Nors there is a concern.
Kessar alone will not be an effective PCT though. You will have to supplement with HCG and Clomid as well
Kessar alone will not be an effective PCT though. You will have to supplement with HCG and Clomid as well
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20 Aug 2009 20:49 #20590
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Thanks Netro, i was under the bad impression that nolva wold be suffiscient...
appreciate it...
appreciate it...
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20 Aug 2009 23:17 #20603
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If your using kessar I don't think the clomid is needed. The HCG is a welcome addition though.
That being said, from personal experience I can say if your young, dumb, and fulla cum, then from milder cycles of ~200mg test a week, kessar for a few weeks is enough to restore full HPTA. But if you have access to HCG then rather take the extra precaution.
That being said, from personal experience I can say if your young, dumb, and fulla cum, then from milder cycles of ~200mg test a week, kessar for a few weeks is enough to restore full HPTA. But if you have access to HCG then rather take the extra precaution.
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"Whether You Think You Can or Can't, You're Right"--Henry Ford
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you can use kessar for EQ.... not a prob its not a 19 nore
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