gyno

Hi guys n galz..

i woke up this morning with a slight puffiness under and around the nipple region!!! a little freaked out, so letrozol on its way!!

can anyone help me with the doses and duration of letrozol in order to combat gyno before becomes a problem..

oh yes im on 600mg test e a week..

thanx for the help in advance.

id like to fall in here with ur post. also started with some gyno. im quite prone to it on high test dosages.

especially my left nipple.i have a round knob under each nipple and its quite irritating. been on 900mg test for 5 weeks and are now on 600mg test / 300mg tren / 40mg turinabol per week.

should i just bare it out to the end of the cycle? my doc once told me it will go away after the cycle, but im not too sure about that.

i have 4 weeks of cycle left

If you are getting signs of gyno nib it now. It doesn't always go away after cycle, especially if the breast tissue has developed already under the nipple.

Anywhere from 1mg to 2.5mg ED will stop the gyno fast. Then once the gyno disappears taper it down to 0.25mg quickly, especially if you are close to the end of your cycle. Make sure you stop usage before you stop PCT.

ED would be.........................?

@ maximus26 ed would be everyday

@ inja. dude thanx for the advice, so,1mg - 2.5mg everyday until gyno fucks off then taper down. i got it thanks

ur views on kessar for gyno? i can easily get that. how does letrozol differ?

kessar is good for gyno and was part of the body building arsenal for years where gyno is concerned. It stops the activity of estrogen in breast tissue while acting as an estrogen in other tissue. It is far less potent than letro, which will destroy the gyno as well as prevent the positive effects of estrogen like immune function, bone density, etc...


If you have just started to show symptoms of gyno 40mg to 60mg of tamoxifen (kessar) will generally stop the gyno from progressing and should caus symptoms to revert. However if you can already feel tissue forming behind the nipple (not just fat but proper breast tissue) then letrozole is a safer option. Once breast tissue has formed tamoxifen may not fully rid you of this tissue.

If you have both on hand then begin kessar 20mg ED after the gyno has reverted from letro use and stop the concurrent use of the letro.

@ inja

will 40mg kessar ed for 8days work u think or is that to short

A week of tamoxifen will probably be too short. The general guidelines with gyno is to continue the anti-gyno compounds usage until the new gyno is completely reverted. This will take different lengths of time in different individuals.

40mg - 60mg was commonly used in the initial phase of gyno reversal. If you are continuing your cycle after the gyno has reverted then you will need a maintainance dose of your chosen compound. 20mg for kessar, or with letro the recommendation is .25mg.

Keep in mind that all these compounds (SERMs and AIs) are very reactive compounds and are potential carcinogens, so there use should be kept to as minimal as possible.

Ah yes, as an after thought I forgot to mention something else that will concern maximus.

I don't particularly believe the 19-nor kessar shebangle, but nevertheless there are many that support this notion and thus it's worth a mention. The idea is that although kessar is a very poor estrogen in breast tissue it does has some estrogenic activity (although this is far far less than the estrogenic activity of natural estrogen). Some will debate that when gyno is aggrevated by the use of a progestin such as tren or deca, the use of kessar can still promote gyno by providing a tiny teeny weeny estrogen signal to work in parallel with the pregesterone signal from the 19-nor compound. In this instance the use of letro is promoted as it completely obliterates estrogen.
If you are indeed concerned about this then letro is the safer option.

thanx inja.

i ordered the letro instead

Please note letro will not supress the current free estrogen, use 2.5mg letro p/d... include nolva into that 20mg (high doses not recomended), remeber this will supress a minimum of 20% of the plaza in your blood of the letro... but will help with current issue, use nolva for a few days, and monitor / update this thread so we know where you at...

sweet

it was old evidence that high doses of nolva is a good idea.. spoken to a number of medical personal and all advised not to go over 30mg.. and higher will do nothing except toxify your body.

Also kessar will not affect your libido but letro could kill it temporarily. It doesn't happen to everyone on letro but its a common side effect. It does work out cheaper to use LP's letro though and it will keep water retention to a minimum where kessar will still leave you looking a bit bloated if you have bad water retention.

I used the LP Letro and it worked very quickly, at the high doses mentioned.

However it shut my libido down totally, so beware, that might be a temporary price you pay for preventing bitch tits.

Totally worth it of course, but just don't expect to be starring in any porn movies for a week or 2.

shaunrsa wrote:

I used the LP Letro and it worked very quickly, at the high doses mentioned.

However it shut my libido down totally, so beware, that might be a temporary price you pay for preventing bitch tits.

Totally worth it of course, but just don't expect to be starring in any porn movies for a week or 2.

The biggest mistakes made with letro are dosages. Letro can supress Estrogen conversion up to 98% at a small dose so be careful.You will NEVER need to supress is that much. This is why i prefer Arimidex personally. Half a tab a day solves any issues i can have related to estrogen. With .5 ED i know im preventing around 55% estrogen conversion

If im wanting to take arimadex how long must i take it for and how much of it must i get? I think im getting a bit of gyno probs around my right nipple its getting a bit soft and i dont like that.

I think it is wise not to use 2.5mg Letro initially as that will cause other issues as well like mentioned above. Rather start on 0.5mg if you are just starting to show signs of gyno and slowly increase it if you don't notice any improvement after a week or so.

If you already have bad gyno and have to reverse it then you can start on a higher dose.

00pump wrote:

Please note letro will not supress the current free estrogen, use 2.5mg letro p/d... include nolva into that 20mg (high doses not recomended), remeber this will supress a minimum of 20% of the plaza in your blood of the letro... but will help with current issue, use nolva for a few days, and monitor / update this thread so we know where you at...

sweet

Letro wont stop the estrogen already in the body but it will supress 70-80% of the production of estrogen after as little as 72 hours. Since estrogen has a half life of less than a day in the body there will be very little circulating estrogen after a few days of letro treatment.

I agree that there is very little difference between 10mg and 40mg in activity of kessar. The same can be said for 0.1mg and 2.5mg letrozole. But generally guys wanna be safer and take the higher doses just in case and that's why the higher doses are generally suggested.

Inja wrote:

00pump wrote:

Please note letro will not supress the current free estrogen, use 2.5mg letro p/d... include nolva into that 20mg (high doses not recomended), remeber this will supress a minimum of 20% of the plaza in your blood of the letro... but will help with current issue, use nolva for a few days, and monitor / update this thread so we know where you at...

sweet

Letro wont stop the estrogen already in the body but it will supress 70-80% of the production of estrogen after as little as 72 hours. Since estrogen has a half life of less than a day in the body there will be very little circulating estrogen after a few days of letro treatment.

I agree that there is very little difference between 10mg and 40mg in activity of kessar. The same can be said for 0.1mg and 2.5mg letrozole. But generally guys wanna be safer and take the higher doses just in case and that's why the higher doses are generally suggested.

what do you mean by there is no difference in activity between .1 mg to 2.5 mg of letro? Letro is BIG time dose dependant on its efficiency. Now I know for a fact that 1 full tab of Adex prevents aromatization more than half a tab. This from personal experience so I dont see how 0.1 mg of letro would be the same as 2.5 mg. Sorry i dont agree with your theory there bro.and also having no estrogen in your body is very unhealthy and further more dangerous for the body so be very careful with letro dosages.
SNOK 0.5 mg or half a tab ED will prevent gyno from developing. Mind you Arimidex is quite expensive

Adex and letro are two different compounds.
Letro is so potent that dosages of 0.1mg and 2.5mg of it have been shown to have the same effect on dramatically reducing estrogen.

Thanks for backing me up on the negative effects of having no estrogen in the system though. It's an important point to remember.

Lesa wrote:

shaunrsa wrote:

I used the LP Letro and it worked very quickly, at the high doses mentioned.

However it shut my libido down totally, so beware, that might be a temporary price you pay for preventing bitch tits.

Totally worth it of course, but just don't expect to be starring in any porn movies for a week or 2.

The biggest mistakes made with letro are dosages. Letro can supress Estrogen conversion up to 98% at a small dose so be careful.You will NEVER need to supress is that much. This is why i prefer Arimidex personally. Half a tab a day solves any issues i can have related to estrogen. With .5 ED i know im preventing around 55% estrogen conversion

That's why small maintenance doses of Letro is the way to go I think. To wait for gyno to appear and then hit it with massive doses to blitz it, takes it's toll. The body needs to have some estrogen obviously.

My understanding is that it does more or less the same job as Adex, only better?

Most of the other sites I subscribe to recommend about .5mg EOD as a maintenance dose in place of Adex. Many say they take it in small doses right from the start of the cycle.

I see Admin disagrees with that though. I would clearly bow to his superior wisdom on this then.

we not talking about maintenance, Sensui said he has gyno signs... that is why bump it up high.. nobody is talking about maintenence...

Guys, never underestimate Letrozole, Bromocriptine, Exemestane or Arimidex. They are all very potent and side-effects are dose defendant, so always use the min amount you can get away with.

It is amazing how a small dose of Letro can suppress estrogen.

I am so gyno pro.... and to be honest if I use .5mg up to 1mg on a cycle I still get gyno sides.... even after my gyno op, I don't believe 100% was removed so the gland is still very active and it doesn't take much to start puffyness.. I have started high at 2mg a day and going to tapper down to 1mg and see how it lasts, on 2mg my nipples dont start pointing down...