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i woke up this morning with a slight puffiness under and around the nipple region!!! a little freaked out, so letrozol on its way!!
can anyone help me with the doses and duration of letrozol in order to combat gyno before becomes a problem..
oh yes im on 600mg test e a week..
thanx for the help in advance.
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especially my left nipple.i have a round knob under each nipple and its quite irritating. been on 900mg test for 5 weeks and are now on 600mg test / 300mg tren / 40mg turinabol per week.
should i just bare it out to the end of the cycle? my doc once told me it will go away after the cycle, but im not too sure about that.
i have 4 weeks of cycle left
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Anywhere from 1mg to 2.5mg ED will stop the gyno fast. Then once the gyno disappears taper it down to 0.25mg quickly, especially if you are close to the end of your cycle. Make sure you stop usage before you stop PCT.
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@ inja. dude thanx for the advice, so,1mg - 2.5mg everyday until gyno fucks off then taper down. i got it thanks
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If you have just started to show symptoms of gyno 40mg to 60mg of tamoxifen (kessar) will generally stop the gyno from progressing and should caus symptoms to revert. However if you can already feel tissue forming behind the nipple (not just fat but proper breast tissue) then letrozole is a safer option. Once breast tissue has formed tamoxifen may not fully rid you of this tissue.
If you have both on hand then begin kessar 20mg ED after the gyno has reverted from letro use and stop the concurrent use of the letro.
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will 40mg kessar ed for 8days work u think or is that to short
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40mg - 60mg was commonly used in the initial phase of gyno reversal. If you are continuing your cycle after the gyno has reverted then you will need a maintainance dose of your chosen compound. 20mg for kessar, or with letro the recommendation is .25mg.
Keep in mind that all these compounds (SERMs and AIs) are very reactive compounds and are potential carcinogens, so there use should be kept to as minimal as possible.
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I don't particularly believe the 19-nor kessar shebangle, but nevertheless there are many that support this notion and thus it's worth a mention. The idea is that although kessar is a very poor estrogen in breast tissue it does has some estrogenic activity (although this is far far less than the estrogenic activity of natural estrogen). Some will debate that when gyno is aggrevated by the use of a progestin such as tren or deca, the use of kessar can still promote gyno by providing a tiny teeny weeny estrogen signal to work in parallel with the pregesterone signal from the 19-nor compound. In this instance the use of letro is promoted as it completely obliterates estrogen.
If you are indeed concerned about this then letro is the safer option.
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i ordered the letro instead
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However it shut my libido down totally, so beware, that might be a temporary price you pay for preventing bitch tits.
Totally worth it of course, but just don't expect to be starring in any porn movies for a week or 2.
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I used the LP Letro and it worked very quickly, at the high doses mentioned.
However it shut my libido down totally, so beware, that might be a temporary price you pay for preventing bitch tits.
Totally worth it of course, but just don't expect to be starring in any porn movies for a week or 2.
The biggest mistakes made with letro are dosages. Letro can supress Estrogen conversion up to 98% at a small dose so be careful.You will NEVER need to supress is that much. This is why i prefer Arimidex personally. Half a tab a day solves any issues i can have related to estrogen. With .5 ED i know im preventing around 55% estrogen conversion
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If you already have bad gyno and have to reverse it then you can start on a higher dose.
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Please note letro will not supress the current free estrogen, use 2.5mg letro p/d... include nolva into that 20mg (high doses not recomended), remeber this will supress a minimum of 20% of the plaza in your blood of the letro... but will help with current issue, use nolva for a few days, and monitor / update this thread so we know where you at...
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Letro wont stop the estrogen already in the body but it will supress 70-80% of the production of estrogen after as little as 72 hours. Since estrogen has a half life of less than a day in the body there will be very little circulating estrogen after a few days of letro treatment.
I agree that there is very little difference between 10mg and 40mg in activity of kessar. The same can be said for 0.1mg and 2.5mg letrozole. But generally guys wanna be safer and take the higher doses just in case and that's why the higher doses are generally suggested.
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Please note letro will not supress the current free estrogen, use 2.5mg letro p/d... include nolva into that 20mg (high doses not recomended), remeber this will supress a minimum of 20% of the plaza in your blood of the letro... but will help with current issue, use nolva for a few days, and monitor / update this thread so we know where you at...
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Letro wont stop the estrogen already in the body but it will supress 70-80% of the production of estrogen after as little as 72 hours. Since estrogen has a half life of less than a day in the body there will be very little circulating estrogen after a few days of letro treatment.
I agree that there is very little difference between 10mg and 40mg in activity of kessar. The same can be said for 0.1mg and 2.5mg letrozole. But generally guys wanna be safer and take the higher doses just in case and that's why the higher doses are generally suggested.
what do you mean by there is no difference in activity between .1 mg to 2.5 mg of letro? Letro is BIG time dose dependant on its efficiency. Now I know for a fact that 1 full tab of Adex prevents aromatization more than half a tab. This from personal experience so I dont see how 0.1 mg of letro would be the same as 2.5 mg. Sorry i dont agree with your theory there bro.and also having no estrogen in your body is very unhealthy and further more dangerous for the body so be very careful with letro dosages.
SNOK 0.5 mg or half a tab ED will prevent gyno from developing. Mind you Arimidex is quite expensive
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Letro is so potent that dosages of 0.1mg and 2.5mg of it have been shown to have the same effect on dramatically reducing estrogen.
Thanks for backing me up on the negative effects of having no estrogen in the system though. It's an important point to remember.
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shaunrsa wrote:
I used the LP Letro and it worked very quickly, at the high doses mentioned.
However it shut my libido down totally, so beware, that might be a temporary price you pay for preventing bitch tits.
Totally worth it of course, but just don't expect to be starring in any porn movies for a week or 2.
The biggest mistakes made with letro are dosages. Letro can supress Estrogen conversion up to 98% at a small dose so be careful.You will NEVER need to supress is that much. This is why i prefer Arimidex personally. Half a tab a day solves any issues i can have related to estrogen. With .5 ED i know im preventing around 55% estrogen conversion
That's why small maintenance doses of Letro is the way to go I think. To wait for gyno to appear and then hit it with massive doses to blitz it, takes it's toll. The body needs to have some estrogen obviously.
My understanding is that it does more or less the same job as Adex, only better?
Most of the other sites I subscribe to recommend about .5mg EOD as a maintenance dose in place of Adex. Many say they take it in small doses right from the start of the cycle.
I see Admin disagrees with that though. I would clearly bow to his superior wisdom on this then.
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It is amazing how a small dose of Letro can suppress estrogen.
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