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29 Jul 2009 11:00 #18606 by Phillg
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Hi All

Great forum you've got and some very interesting reading.

Firstly some background:
Age: 24yo
Height: 1.91m
Weight: 62kgs
Training: +- 3times a week for the last 2years.
Typical daily meals:
At 06:00 - 3X Fried eggs on wholewheat toast + boerewors/steak. +- 30min Later 500ml Muscle Science Mass builder drink.
At 9:00: 2-3packs of Oatso Easy.
11:00 - Snacking on some biltong or dry Oatees.
13:00 - Usually Pasta/Macaroni or 3-4 sarmies with cold meat.
15:00 - pack of 2minute noodles or Chicken salad
18:00 - Typical Dinner - Rice/Potatoes,Steak, Vegies or Spagetti Bolognaise.
30min after another 500ml Muscle Science Mass Builder Drink
20:00-21:00 - Will snack on anything eg. Chips/Biltong etc etc.

So my problem is that I do not seem to gain any weight at all!!I have even gone to see a doctor and do tests, only to be told there's nothing wrong, and that I need to make peace with the fact that I've got a fast metabolism.
My training consists of absolutely no cardio. And really heavy weight training, I dont know whats the problem and need to pick up weight.
Any advice or info would be appreciated, I am sick and tired of being so skinny and getting really desperate. I was thinking of doing a cycle as another Dr. told me that it's the only other alternative but refuses to prescribe it.
Please help!
Thanks in Advance.

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29 Jul 2009 11:41 #18608 by jackrabbit1
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I would rather be starting off from your position than with a BF of 30%.
I'm sure Dj's sniffer will find you to help with your diet :).

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29 Jul 2009 11:44 #18610 by 00pump
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Thats not really allot of food, also bad choice of food but you should be heavier than that with what you eating... You must be just like me a hardgainer so the joys of that is you can eat a bit more crap than others.. But what put in you get out, so try get rid of the fried eggs and chips you snack on and those 2 minute noodles, eeeeek....

Speak to the DJ he should see this soon, he can work out a diet for you.. thing is you honestly have to eat more, you wont feel so full if you stop snacking on crap...

you need to eat more dense food, potatoes, loads of them (mash is an easy way to consume allot) you don't have enough veggies in your diet either... also by eating eggs worse and steak you going to lose your apitite, you need more carbs, eating allot of carbs makes you hungry....

I make a huge ammount of rice and chicken for work.... and havee that split into 3 times during the day, with veggies and other stuff ofcourse. also looks like from 9/6 you not getting enough quality protein, the chicken salad if I where to picture would not be a number of chicken breasts, etc... what you need to do is cook huge dinners that can last you dinner and all day the next day, healthy foods...

anyway, somebody else will add some more... a course will help but no point if you have not got the A/Z's together... Go to the General Tab on here and click on FAQ and read that stuff for starters and follow what needs to be done to be prepared..

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29 Jul 2009 11:45 #18611 by 00pump
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jackrabbit1 wrote:

I would rather be starting off from your position than with a BF of 30%.
I'm sure Dj's sniffer will find you to help with your diet :).


Correct you in a awsome position to do some amazing stuff with your body.... stay tuned..

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29 Jul 2009 11:48 #18612 by 00pump
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Phillg wrote:

Hi All

Great forum you've got and some very interesting reading.

Firstly some background:
Age: 24yo
Height: 1.91m
Weight: 62kgs
Training: +- 3times a week for the last 2years.
Typical daily meals:
At 06:00 - 3X Fried eggs on wholewheat toast + boerewors/steak. +- 30min Later 500ml Muscle Science Mass builder drink.
At 9:00: 2-3packs of Oatso Easy.
11:00 - Snacking on some biltong or dry Oatees.
13:00 - Usually Pasta/Macaroni or 3-4 sarmies with cold meat.
15:00 - pack of 2minute noodles or Chicken salad
18:00 - Typical Dinner - Rice/Potatoes,Steak, Vegies or Spagetti Bolognaise.
30min after another 500ml Muscle Science Mass Builder Drink
20:00-21:00 - Will snack on anything eg. Chips/Biltong etc etc.

So my problem is that I do not seem to gain any weight at all!!I have even gone to see a doctor and do tests, only to be told there's nothing wrong, and that I need to make peace with the fact that I've got a fast metabolism.
My training consists of absolutely no cardio. And really heavy weight training, I dont know whats the problem and need to pick up weight.
Any advice or info would be appreciated, I am sick and tired of being so skinny and getting really desperate. I was thinking of doing a cycle as another Dr. told me that it's the only other alternative but refuses to prescribe it.
Please help!
Thanks in Advance.


Theres some karma for giving such a great post and not having people suck out information from you,

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29 Jul 2009 11:51 #18613 by Extreme
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You'll need to eat properly first before you consider doing a course.
Adding another 2 - 3 meals will also be a good idea.

Look on this forum for djeasy with muscle squirel for his avatar, email him and let him work out a diet for you.

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29 Jul 2009 12:05 #18617 by Mr_SA
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Phillg wrote:

Hi All

Great forum you've got and some very interesting reading.

Firstly some background:
Age: 24yo
Height: 1.91m
Weight: 62kgs
Training: +- 3times a week for the last 2years.
Typical daily meals:
At 06:00 - 3X Fried eggs on wholewheat toast + boerewors/steak. +- 30min Later 500ml Muscle Science Mass builder drink.
At 9:00: 2-3packs of Oatso Easy.
11:00 - Snacking on some biltong or dry Oatees.
13:00 - Usually Pasta/Macaroni or 3-4 sarmies with cold meat.
15:00 - pack of 2minute noodles or Chicken salad
18:00 - Typical Dinner - Rice/Potatoes,Steak, Vegies or Spagetti Bolognaise.
30min after another 500ml Muscle Science Mass Builder Drink
20:00-21:00 - Will snack on anything eg. Chips/Biltong etc etc.

So my problem is that I do not seem to gain any weight at all!!I have even gone to see a doctor and do tests, only to be told there's nothing wrong, and that I need to make peace with the fact that I've got a fast metabolism.
My training consists of absolutely no cardio. And really heavy weight training, I dont know whats the problem and need to pick up weight.
Any advice or info would be appreciated, I am sick and tired of being so skinny and getting really desperate. I was thinking of doing a cycle as another Dr. told me that it's the only other alternative but refuses to prescribe it.
Please help!
Thanks in Advance.


Email Djeasye on EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED for an eating plan.
You need to eat ALOT more than what you are eating man!

Good luck!

Give it a shot, you're only TESTing it...

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29 Jul 2009 12:27 #18618 by Empire
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wow guys shot for the punting on this... i do appreciate it... u are really endorsing my retirement life style ;)

champ i can help u,i will getting u eating alot cleaner the reason for this is less fat build up when u start putting on the muscle... we can look at doing designing a cycle for u aswell in order to get that mass of yours up

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29 Jul 2009 12:29 #18619 by pieterden
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i would recommend :

500 gram of viagra +- 7 tabs a week

decca/sus



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29 Jul 2009 12:33 #18620 by Empire
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pieterden wrote:

i would recommend :

500 gram of viagra +- 7 tabs a week

decca/sus



gl


ummmm are u nuts?

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29 Jul 2009 12:45 #18625 by 00pump
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djeasye wrote:

pieterden wrote:

i would recommend :

500 gram of viagra +- 7 tabs a week

decca/sus



gl


ummmm are u nuts?



LOL!!!!!!!!!! he isn't he... and you the one who should be eating nuts squirrel

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29 Jul 2009 12:49 #18626 by Empire
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u smoke to much tik this morning gramps? your first post was a bit screwed...lol...

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29 Jul 2009 12:55 #18628 by 00pump
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lol...... ye I kept going in another direction and forgetting what i was writing in the first part... i was trying to sum it up, eat more quality foods...

sick an on a cycle :( not cooooooool..... head is in space at the moment... i'll be touching down any day now.... time to go home and give my ass a nice stining B injection.

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29 Jul 2009 12:57 #18629 by 00pump
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I also don't know how you do it, yes I know you charge, but the energy involved in helpin people with diets is just death, i hate repeating myself, thats why i wont answer many posts.... wish people would use the history...

hehe

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29 Jul 2009 12:59 #18630 by Empire
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dude its so easy really,i love dealing with people and answering their questions...i am currently on tren so the happy face is not gonna be so easy soon....

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29 Jul 2009 13:03 #18631 by 00pump
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hahah.... hrm, tren, aina, that is just 1 substance I cannot use, if I use that I need hardcore sleeping tabs and i'm very moody the only time i'm happy is when i'm in the gym.... good luck with that :)

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29 Jul 2009 15:57 #18659 by Phillg
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Thanks for all the advice guys.

DJeasye you've got mail.

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29 Jul 2009 16:02 #18660 by Empire
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sweet

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30 Jul 2009 21:19 #18778 by Inja
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djeasye wrote:

we can look at doing designing a cycle for u aswell in order to get that mass of yours up


No offense DJ squirrel man but I wouldn't offer cycle design as an option to him for at least another year or two... Hard gainer or no.

Sorry if I offend you
Its just my point of view

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31 Jul 2009 07:18 #18792 by 00pump
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Good suggestion Inja....

He has allot of natrual growing to do.... ALLOT......... he can build a frame to work on... if I was him I would look at doing all oldschool moves, just your core moves for mass, mainly squats, if you have knee injuries replace with leg press, big press movements, dumbell / bench presses. dead lifts, big barbell curls, ez extesions / close grip bench press. bent over rows... you can even do that training split I said 3 times a week, mon / wed / fri and rest on other days and just eat... you will grow.. I was one of the hardest gainers but following that type of power workout (allways using negative / postive) eg a push with a pull (bench then bent over rows)

trust me, keep it simple add mass, dont touch a machine that will ruin you... keep it to iron only...

I would keep your food intake very high, specially high ammounts of carbs... if you really as hard gainer as you say you are, 3 times a week training is enough.... be prepared to explode...

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31 Jul 2009 07:22 #18794 by Empire
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Inja wrote:

djeasye wrote:

we can look at doing designing a cycle for u aswell in order to get that mass of yours up


No offense DJ squirrel man but I wouldn't offer cycle design as an option to him for at least another year or two... Hard gainer or no.


hence the reason i said look at designing a cycle... no offense taken inja...

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31 Jul 2009 07:36 #18798 by 00pump
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what you doing online so early, go back to bed.

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31 Jul 2009 08:00 #18802 by Empire
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tren insomnia. need i say more

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31 Jul 2009 08:06 #18803 by 00pump
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Ouch sorry man... I have quite a bit left at home, so scared to use it at the end of my cycle...... I want to but hrm........ honestly was lifee worth living at that time LOL!!!! but the truth is nothing can transform your body like tren.... you using tren e or a? or a bit of both?

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31 Jul 2009 08:09 #18804 by Empire
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tren acetate.40mg everyday. go look for the bank breaker cycle thread....thats my current cycle...

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