Are The Gains From DHT Steroids Permanent ?

My mates that cycle are all club rugby players.

They only ever take DHT derivatives eg. anavar; winstrol; primo. They've never heard of PCT and don't do any. Yet they seem to keep most of their gains.

How is this possible?

I bet you they would of had alot more gains if they did PCT.

BigDave wrote:

My mates that cycle are all club rugby players.

They only ever take DHT derivatives eg. anavar; winstrol; primo. They've never heard of PCT and don't do any. Yet they seem to keep most of their gains.

How is this possible?

yip, lot of y mates as well, they never use clomid pregnal etc, still have ton of muscles, use test dball etc.

loks to me like they keep all there gains made by cycling,i duno how the fuk that wrks.

A lot of the guys in my gym also keep most of their gains and they don't even know what PCT is. Hell they don't even know what they are injecting. In fact they just go to the only supplier in town and he injects them with whatever he feels like I guess.

The other day this supplier gave a first time juicer a cycle. Started of with 150mg Anapolon a day and loads of other goodies and he doesn't even drink 2l of water a day. Good bye liver

I know some guys who never stop cycling and never pct.They reached a certain size and stayed there.

This sound more like steroid abuse to me. When it ends up screwing up their hormones permanently and their body they wonder why, and blame Steroids( instead of their own stupidity )

I have met a guy that had permanent problems from not cycling properly. His blood pressure is totally screwed and has to take medication to controlit and he is a emotional wreck at time. ( not to mention kidney problems and others he wont mention- prob pecker problems) He is only round 35

150mg Anapolon for the 1st cycle ???
That guy & others like him gives steroids a bad name.
These newbies obviously don't do any research.

The rugby players at my gym are big in size and can lift heavy but there are no 6 packs.
I recon if they had to lean out they would loose most of their size.
I'm pretty sure these guys will have problems later in life, kidneys, liver, sperm count, etc

That supplier in my town also gave juice to the first team rugby players of one of the high schools. 2 Years ago they couldn't win shit. Last year they won the league championship and fuck those boys are big for school boys. They also don't know what's PCT and stuff.

Im sorry im failing to understand where this thread is going to? Are you trying to argue that its better to do gear without PCT and just inject and take whatever? Thats absolute rubish. First of all you never will know the truth behind what how much and for how long these people are taking in your gyms. They could be on gear for months etc. Also you must remember that every body is different there are people that recover a lot easier from a cycle than others. Some guys are genetic freaks etc. Bottom line is PCT is there for a reason and should not be taken lightly and actually its the most serious time of your whole cycle. Dont listen to random idiots in gyms that are always trying to give advice and think they know stuff. I ended up tearing my bicep for listening to an idiot at the gym and going on winny for like 10 weeks. Reserach research and a proper plan is the way to go with gear

agreed!