AS - Acne and another side effect

Inja wrote:

Happyraven wrote:

Inja would you use HCG and Clomid or HCG and Nolva??

Depends if you believe in the big bad scary 19-NOR or not...

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I'd run test a little longer to clear the 19-nor, just to use Kessar. My whole PCT comes together when the Kessar starts.

I still dont get it to be honest, all the research I do shows the two compounds to be close on exact, except for nolva being much more powerfull... so why people suggest using clomid over nolva... and if they don't get the 'sides of clomid + 19-nor' then they wouldn't get the sides with nolva... so its starting to put allot of doubt in my mind if there is any 'scientific' truth to this..

Yep, in total agreement Mr. Pumper. Glad I'm not the only one on this forum anymore... The LP HCG did it's job and I've got the balls to start a thread on this tomorrow.

Hi People,
Me again and this time please I need some serious help and suggestions. I refer to my first post on this thread.
It is today exactly 3 months since I took my last shot of a Dbol, PGW Testen, Prop, Deca cycle. I intended to start my new cycle of Tbol, Testen, Equi, Prop and Masteron on Monday, but due to my battlefield chest I am thinking of quitting roids altogether. If I look like this now I don't even want to imagine what I will look like in December when I go on holiday. For this reason I haven't ordered my new PGW/LP course. My previous 3 cycles before PGW included Organon, Nomad and Ilium and with them I didn't have a single bump or pimple on my chest. Even as a youngster I wasn't prone to acne and only had the odd pimple.
From suggestions on the AS site I used the following: 28 caps 300mg Tetralysal at 600mg per day and followed that up with a tube of Skin Calm cream which I also finished. I honestly cannot say that there is an improvement.
My diet is still as clean as when I was on cycle with loads of water intake and training as hard as ever.

is all your levels balanced?

secondly have you tried a detox? things like deca is active in your system for a long time.... are you drinking / smoking, taking anything toxic substances?

also get yourself in the sun....

00pump wrote:

is all your levels balanced?

secondly have you tried a detox? things like deca is active in your system for a long time.... are you drinking / smoking, taking anything toxic substances?

Hi Pump,

I take 2 cups green tea per day, just like that, nothing added.
My levels are fine.
Stopped smoking 15 years ago.
Take a few drinks with rugby and only on Saturdays and only in off cycle.
No other toxic substances, only supps every day.

remeber one thing nolvadex is highly toxic... so you neeed to check what 'supps' you putting in something could be toxic... the only way I know of pimples is by an imbalace in your body or your body being toxic... then again this is not something i am a guru in.... high doses of Vitimin A can help / does help... but its very toxic too, so I wouldn't suggest it without going through an MD... put it this way, when using high doses of Vitimin A (I can't remeber the product) but by law you are forbiden to have a kid (yes you not female) as the child will come out with serious issues.. also when using the product you have to stay out the sun, etc... will dig up the names somewhere..... oh yes, Oraccutane <---- requires a script though.... or else if you want to do it natrually the company is imzo and the product is called Zinsell... I would suggest this option first... but i'm telling you i think its a hormone problem... this will fix it no doubt but you need to not just mask the problem but find the source..

let me know if you need more / other input.

Pump, the product that you're referring to is Roaccutane(very toxic).
I am using the following at the moment:
SPS Test Rx
SSN NO Crea Pump
Solal GABAtropin
2g Flaxseed caps pd
2g Vit C pd
Lots of WPC

Maybe a bit off the topic but is your soldier going to war again North_Boy1 ??

Did you use a compound this last cycle that you haven't used before? Maybe don't use that one again...

North Boy I wish I had the answer for you... but normally the type of area you talking about sounds hormonal... Like as I have said before, I only get a few pimples when I come off the gear... Did you get it after your stopped or during your cycle?

I feel you need to speak to a dermatologist... he / she should be able to suggest something....

Extreme wrote:

Maybe a bit off the topic but is your soldier going to war again North_Boy1 ??

The soldier is not as fighting fit as he used to be, but he is starting to get a few shots in, and quite accurate ones I might add.:woohoo:

Inja wrote:

Did you use a compound this last cycle that you haven't used before? Maybe don't use that one again...

Inja I used Deca and Sust before, but different brand. The last cycle was all new compounds - PGW Deca,Testen,Prop. Also never used Pregnyl,Clomid,Proviron,Letro before. Are you suggesting I don't use PGW again??

00pump wrote:

North Boy I wish I had the answer for you... but normally the type of area you talking about sounds hormonal... Like as I have said before, I only get a few pimples when I come off the gear... Did you get it after your stopped or during your cycle?

I feel you need to speak to a dermatologist... he / she should be able to suggest something....

Pump, I only started getting it a month after my last shot. It is now 3 months since last shot.

North_Boy1 wrote:

Good day people,
I need some real expert suggestions and advice here please. I took my last shot of a 12 week Dbol, Testen, Prop, Deca cycle on 3 June 2009 whereafter I did PCT of Clomid, Pregnyl, Letro, Proviron. A month after my last shot I started getting acne(pimples, bumps, blackheads) on my chest. After some research(DJeasye) I bought Tetralysal 300mg antibiotic capsules and took 600mg a day for 14 days. I also apply Oxy10 to my chest on a regular basis. As a youngster I never had acne, not even in my face. It is so embarrasing I can't even take my shirt off to wash my car and the bumps are visible through a t-shirt.
My second problem is even more F#..... embarrasing. When the soldier eventually gets ready for battle and is sent into the battlefield, he fights for a while and then is killed without firing a shot. Sometimes he gets a shot in and then falls over with exhaustion. The enemy doesn't even want to fight him anymore.I was planning to start my new cycle of Tbol, Testen, Equi, Prop and Masteron at the end of August, but I am scared that my two conditions will get even worse. I so desperately want to look good but I am considering quitting. :blush:

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: funniest post Ive read hereB)

this might sound whacked... but as i said only get pimples when i stop.... so maybe going back on would clear it up... but i wouldn't want to be the one to say do it and it gets worse..

I would honestly try Zinsel by Imzo to help put a stop to it now and then try work out what the actual cause is...

A dermatologist would be your best bet but need to be completely open / honest for them to assese and advise correctly.

get moving on it now so we can sort it out...

00pump wrote:

I would honestly try Zinsel by Imzo to help put a stop to it now and then try work out what the actual cause is...

A dermatologist would be your best bet but need to be completely open / honest for them to assese and advise correctly.

get moving on it now so we can sort it out...

Got hold of the Imzo rep who gave me the address of a Health Spa in the East of Pta. Bought the Zinsel E half an hour ago and immediately took one cap. Will take two a day as indicated and hopefully this will help clear the skin........
Thanks Pump, help and info much appreciated.

If I was you I would not even think about touching gear if your Soldier is not performing like he used to before gear. Man you playing with fire. Your hormone levels are not balanced if you are still having issues and If I was you i would really go and get some bloodwork done.Your pimple situation could be very well related to your hormonal imbalances. Gear is just not worth losing your battlefield performance. Sort yourself out first 100 % then wait another two months then do a cycle dont rush and fuk yourself up even more.

Lesa wrote:

If I was you I would not even think about touching gear if your Soldier is not performing like he used to before gear. Man you playing with fire. Your hormone levels are not balanced if you are still having issues and If I was you i would really go and get some bloodwork done.Your pimple situation could be very well related to your hormonal imbalances. Gear is just not worth losing your battlefield performance. Sort yourself out first 100 % then wait another two months then do a cycle dont rush and fuk yourself up even more.

I had a full bloodwork done 2 months ago, month after cycle. All was OK except test level was a bit low. Took Proviron afterwards and since cycle continuously on test boosters.

North_Boy1 wrote:

Lesa wrote:

If I was you I would not even think about touching gear if your Soldier is not performing like he used to before gear. Man you playing with fire. Your hormone levels are not balanced if you are still having issues and If I was you i would really go and get some bloodwork done.Your pimple situation could be very well related to your hormonal imbalances. Gear is just not worth losing your battlefield performance. Sort yourself out first 100 % then wait another two months then do a cycle dont rush and fuk yourself up even more.

I had a full bloodwork done 2 months ago, month after cycle. All was OK except test level was a bit low. Took Proviron afterwards and since cycle continuously on test boosters.

Mate Proviron is a steroid and it will have a negative effect on your HPTA. I am guessing you didnt do bloodwork after proviron usage. Im willing to bet your natural test lvls will be even lower. I dont understand why didnt you do more bloodwork afterwards or did you assume that everything will come to balance after proviron? I think I posted somewhere about negative sides of proviron on HPTA. How long have you been off cycle and how long has it been since you used Proviron. You should not be considering another cycle right now bro.

Lesa wrote:

North_Boy1 wrote:

Lesa wrote:

If I was you I would not even think about touching gear if your Soldier is not performing like he used to before gear. Man you playing with fire. Your hormone levels are not balanced if you are still having issues and If I was you i would really go and get some bloodwork done.Your pimple situation could be very well related to your hormonal imbalances. Gear is just not worth losing your battlefield performance. Sort yourself out first 100 % then wait another two months then do a cycle dont rush and fuk yourself up even more.

I had a full bloodwork done 2 months ago, month after cycle. All was OK except test level was a bit low. Took Proviron afterwards and since cycle continuously on test boosters.

Mate Proviron is a steroid and it will have a negative effect on your HPTA. I am guessing you didnt do bloodwork after proviron usage. Im willing to bet your natural test lvls will be even lower. I dont understand why didnt you do more bloodwork afterwards or did you assume that everything will come to balance after proviron? I think I posted somewhere about negative sides of proviron on HPTA. How long have you been off cycle and how long has it been since you used Proviron. You should not be considering another cycle right now bro.

Lesa, been off cycle exactly 3 months and used Proviron 2 1/2 months ago. No bloodwork done after Proviron usage. :hmm

OK I think you should go for another bloodwork and test for total and free testostorone as well . What was your a bit low figure in your test result? 8.4 - 28.7 anywhere in between should be normal. Also do you wax your chest or shave?

Well put it this way you can't harm yourself furthering your PCT if your hormones are low.. proviron will not help it will shut you down... need to use nolva for an extended pct... but I would get test levels and estrogen levels checked... jeah, its all an expense but you need to find the balance.. that stuff you taking I have seen first hand work, my sister used to suffer from extreme acne, and her face is now clear... she was on Roaccutane before hand and having better success the natrual route..

maybe you do need an extended pct and use nolva for a month to get your test levels back in swing, your pct might have been to short for the current cycle you did, everyones body react differently. your body should come right on its own, but it may take to long / may never happen... maybe if you want to do it the more natrual way take HOT for PCT now instead of prengly / nolva, etc...

you could also have issues with high prolactin levels like I do... any hormone imbalace could cause that.... and having high prolactin levels can cause you not to keep a _|_ and also make you tired, aswell as many other side effects.

pct could be a start but maybe better to check things out again before you stsart putting more stuff into your body as nolva, etc is toxic...

your call, my best advice, get test/estrogen/prolactin levels checked.. determine if you need to run pct, if so use HOT or Nolva... if prolactin levels up, squash it with bromo....

if its none of those it might just mean you need to use these new tabs for a bit, get some sun on you and i'm sure you will have it sorted soon!

Good luck cuzzie