Pain

My mate is having very bad reactions with ARL super test and ARL deca, where ever he injects he is in pain for at least 1 week to 2 weeks... he has just finshed his 5th week of a 10week corse and he cannot continue, its effecting his sleep, gym etc.
Im doing the exact same corse and im 100s.

Should he go straight onto his PCT or continue with something that is lighter prehaps for the 5 weeks that he has left? thanks.

pain as in bumps on his ass?

Does it look like mosquito bites but more painful?

If it is then he has got a slight infection that can lead to a full blown abcess.

Get some wide spectrum antibiotics from your doc, should clear right up.

PS stick to pharma quality or PGW.

No bumps just one swollen area around the injection site, but his entire ass cheek like swells up. Its red but no sign of "misquito bites".

He did orginally go to the doctor b4 and he did get anti biotics...but he thought it was just a one off thing hence he carried on.

wonder if there is something in that ARL stuff, I don't know it... but some of the conditions that some steroids companys work under maybe something got into the 'mix'

has he ever had this before? is he using a alchol swop ? and making sure the area is clean, not using old needles or plunges? and is he injecting 'DEEP' into the muscle, that can happen if you inject to close to the surface...

No he has never had this b4 he has used sus and deca from other brands, first time on ARL...strange thing is im 100% and im on the exact corse seeing good gains - No pain at all except for like one day.

Yeah everything, the swop to clean the site, injecting 90 degrees to the muscle, inject so the entire needle is in, pull back a tad on the plunger to see if blood entres the syringe if so pull out immediatly and start from another position, if no carry on going very slowly with the plunger. The needle he is using is a 23 gage but its only the 1 inch needle not the 1 inch and 1/4 - maybe that cud be the reason?
He has tryed quads, delt and glute but still in emense pain, maybe a bad batch.

Could be.... I find adding EQ to my injection protocol causes a nice smooth injection... it could be a bad batch.... have you ever put a microscope on a surface that you have just cleaned? please do me a favour if not and try it only need a few of those critters in your body to do some ugllllly stuff....

once again I don't know ARL so I can't comment on them, I can find out and see if I can dig up what conditions they work under... would be a great idea if he could take another source for 1 week and see if that same problem arises, or inject the deca in one area and the test in another and see what causes the problem?

good luck!

I used a 1 inch needle in my glute before and if you injecting yourself its quite hard keeping it all the way in cause they so short and so i ended up getting a hard lump which felt like it was directly under the skin but it went away after a week or so.. but if he's doing his quads and its happening as well then i dunno, could be a different batch with higher amounts of solvents used

ummm are u taking the deca in the first ml and the super test in the second ml and not shaking the who in the syringe? i got that from pgw tren,i would draw 1ml of prop and .5ml of tren acetate in last and then not mixing it i would inject,wow the pain was savage...then when i mixed the two thoroughly the pain went away, now i take it there are short esters in the super test so u will need to dilute them a bit in the deca aswell and it should take the pain away...

thanks 00pump,Novie! and Dj.

00pump
No i have not put a microscope on the surface i have just cleaned unfortunatly But ill try find a microscope somewhere.
Yeah im sure i can organise a diff source for one week, thats actually a good idea.
Yeah we will try split the deca and test up see what the diff is. Ill give feed back next week.

djeasye
Nope we taking out the test first than the deca and no we not shaking it up - But if u say shaking it up works than we will give it a bash.

Thanks for the info guys.

Do you inject each other, or help each other with the shots? Do things get a bit steamy with all the extra testosterone in the air? These can be smaller risk factors associated with a sore bum...

HAHAHAHAHAH!!! good one :laugh: We also go for long walks on the beach and go for the odd cocktail at the local panzie bar... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: