Finpecia+Depatrone+Dianabol

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22 Sep 2009 16:21 #23589 by Superman123
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I am looking into a cycle of that includes Finpecia with Depatrone + Dianabol + Clomid + Kessar

My question is that I am concerned with how finpecia will react with the other componds. Somewhere I read that it is not a good idea is this true. Wish I could read that thread again but cant find it.

I think it was posted by Inja but not sure.

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23 Sep 2009 00:35 #23629 by Lesa
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dianabol + finpecia = waste of time as dianabol is a DHT derivative

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23 Sep 2009 15:28 #23692 by Inja
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Really Lesa?
Looks like a testosterone derivative to me???

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23 Sep 2009 18:36 #23704 by Empire
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Inja wrote:

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Really Lesa?
Looks like a testosterone derivative to me???


lol some people get touchy lol....

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23 Sep 2009 21:04 #23709 by Lesa
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ok Mr Ballbreaker. I always though that dbol is derivative of dihydrotestostorone and because of this reason that finapecia doesnt help. Finasteride prevents aromatization of test into DHT so if dbol is not a dht derivative then why the fuck is finasteride useless against hairloss with dbol. Or now fina helps vs hairloss when using dbol? Dont just act like a smartass when commenting explain things fully ballbreaker.

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24 Sep 2009 17:30 #23749 by Inja
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Um... Not busting your balls bro. I take the time to try to double check the things I say from time to time because I have a million things that preoccupy my brain at any given time and I can confuse myself. You could do the same. A simple search on pubchem will yield a diagram like the one above that clearly shows that dianabol is not a DHT derivative.

Dianabol is a potent steroid and since testosterone itself in high concentrations can affect the hairline, a potent form of testosterone (dianabol) may also. However most of the effects on hairline are mediated by convertion to a DHT derivative, and this is also true for dianabol. So finateride does to some degree help with the hairloss suffered by Dbol.

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24 Sep 2009 18:54 #23765 by Lesa
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Inja wrote:

Um... Not busting your balls bro. I take the time to try to double check the things I say from time to time because I have a million things that preoccupy my brain at any given time and I can confuse myself. You could do the same. A simple search on pubchem will yield a diagram like the one above that clearly shows that dianabol is not a DHT derivative.

Dianabol is a potent steroid and since testosterone itself in high concentrations can affect the hairline, a potent form of testosterone (dianabol) may also. However most of the effects on hairline are mediated by convertion to a DHT derivative, and this is also true for dianabol. So finateride does to some degree help with the hairloss suffered by Dbol.


thats very strange inja cause on every single forum where i searched for hairloss issues it is clearly said that finasteride does FUCK ALL for hair loss if you using dbol. And i doubt that it has anything yo do with because dbol is a potent form of teststorone. It actually has something to do with dht conversion. But I would not take any advice from you anyways as you have no experince with finasteride yourself.

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24 Sep 2009 19:27 #23769 by Inja
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Why do you say I have no experience with finasteride? I have used it on many occasion. As have I used Dbol up to 60mg a day.

Bottom line is that Dbol converts to a DHT derivative using the 5-alpha reductase enzyme and finasteride will block this conversion. You decide for yourself whether you think this will help with hairloss or not.
Much of the information you you find regurgetated on other forums is total garbage...

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24 Sep 2009 19:34 #23772 by Inja
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And on top of that here is something else for you to ponder. Many guys use Dbol to kickstart a cycle. So they use it for a few weeks in the beginning of a cycle. Many also start propecia at this same same. If you are sensitive to hairloss and want to prevent Dbol conversion you should take the finasteride in advance of starting the Dbol, to fully saturate reductase enzymes.
This may be one of the routes of the silly rumours that Dbol is a DHT derivative.

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24 Sep 2009 20:13 #23775 by Lesa
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Inja wrote:

And on top of that here is something else for you to ponder. Many guys use Dbol to kickstart a cycle. So they use it for a few weeks in the beginning of a cycle. Many also start propecia at this same same. If you are sensitive to hairloss and want to prevent Dbol conversion you should take the finasteride in advance of starting the Dbol, to fully saturate reductase enzymes.
This may be one of the routes of the silly rumours that Dbol is a DHT derivative.


So dbol is a test derivative.Fuck sorry i dont sit and read molecular biology all fucking day.
You are the ONLY person that says fina will prevent hair loss from dbol. Ive seen DJ also post before to threads saying fina doesnt help with hair loss ON THIS FORUM. You just wanna argue and break balls thats it. just like your ballbreaking about clomid.And yea the reason im saying you got no exp with fina is when you were commenting on PCT and fina usage you had fuck all concrete answers to anything.

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24 Sep 2009 20:26 #23776 by Inja
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Curb your roidrage brother,
I don't read molecular biology all day, just at work and occasionally when I'm curious about something I don't know.

This forum and others have loads of bullcrap information on them woven in amongst the good information threads. The shear amount of contradictions on the internet will confirm that.
I spent years reading and trusting the crap I read that other people posted. I t was only after I obtained a degree in biochem and molecular biology that I decided to investigate much of this information for myself. Rather than eat grass like a sheep I decided to go out and hunt down information to determine fact from f-bullcrap.

I then made it my goal to post on this forum, because it is local and I love my country. I'm not here to bust balls or argue. I strive to provide my intellect as a tool to help others who wish to learn. Even if this means I have to disagree with much of what I read. I don't claim to know it all or presume that I am 100% correct in what I say, but I make logical conclusions based on the real scientific information out there, and where I can I back this up with my own real world experience.

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24 Sep 2009 20:37 #23778 by Inja
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As a postscript to the above post,
I have to go to somewhere without internet now, but dig up your finpecia for PCT thread and ask me the questions you would like concrete answers to.

The points I already made in that thread are:
- Finpecia will increase testosterone, just like an A.I. will
- I do not like using enzyme inhibitors in PCT because of the hormone imbalance they induce after you stop using them. This is generally more radical than that following a SERM and thus produces a greater risk of side effects or testosterone reduction following PCT. This is why I suggested that if you do use it you run a SERM afterwards.
- In addition I would like to make the point that finpecia during PCT when endogenous test levels are low and exogenous test is gone will kill your libido.

but dig up the thread and ask away, I'll be happy to help...

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25 Sep 2009 07:50 #23791 by 00pump
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Dianabol is a derivative of testosterone

Testosterone is the only compound that can convert to DHT... And as Inja said the reason why tesosterone is so androgenic is due to the way it converts to DHT via the 5-alpha-reductase enzym.

And hence the biggest reason one develops gyno is not from fina itself, but from it blocking DHT which in fact is an anti estrogen.

And as Inja pointed out again the reason why taking it during PCT is a bad idea again is because DHT is an important part for us men and blocking it will cause issues with libindo and erectile issues and sometimes worse complete sexual intrest.

Then that goes on again to explain why people get acne, hairloss, male pattern baldness, prostatic growth, etc... so hence if you are prono it acne, and the above listed sides stay away from highly androgenic steroids and stay away from DHT derivatives...

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