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26 Oct 2009 10:56 #26944 by gym-guy
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just a question.

ive done 5 cycles now. all had test and other stack included. Still have my full head of hair. No thinning or receding hairline.

now doing my 6th cycle (test e, eq) and thinking of adding masterone. when people talk masterone, you always hear of hair loss as the first risk.

do you guys think im at risk here? what are your thoughts.

thanks.

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26 Oct 2009 11:06 #26946 by Lesa
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No i think you are more than safe with masteron IF you did 5 cycles of test and no hair loss was there you are not prone to male pattern balding. However i do know guys that are not prone to baldness but at high levels of test their hairs end up thiner all over the head. this usually goes away few months after the cycle

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26 Oct 2009 18:36 #27028 by Yohimbe
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Personally I've found masteron harsh on hair line-you notice that you shed hair at quite a rate.
I've done a lot of test cycles and have never had a problem, but did a cycle of masteron and noticed some definite shedding and thinning on the scalp.

Just my personal experience. Funnily enough winstrol was fine for me, which should be equally as bad as masteron. Affects people in differnt ways, but I do know a lot of guys who struggle with masteron and proviron and hair loss, and don't have problems on test.

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26 Oct 2009 21:56 #27044 by Inja
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How much test are we talking here?

Sorry if I offend you
Its just my point of view

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26 Oct 2009 22:23 #27050 by Yohimbe
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For perpspective my test cycles have ranged from 650mg/week to 1,200mg/week, with 800-900mg/week being my sweet spot. I only run shics up to max of 7 week cycles.
Comparatively my masteron doses were 400mg/week and 500mg/week next cycle. Those were 6 weekers.

May not necessarily affect you as it did me, but just know that high doses of test don't seem to affect me, but the masteron at a fairly conservative dose did. And as I say winny was fine.

You can try topical spiro if you are concerned to pre empt the problem, as finasteride will do nothing for masteron as its already 5 alpha reduced

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26 Oct 2009 22:34 #27055 by Inja
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Yohimbe wrote:

I only run shics up to max of 7 week cycles.


:hmm

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26 Oct 2009 22:44 #27057 by Yohimbe
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Inja wrote:

Yohimbe wrote:

I only run shics up to max of 7 week cycles.


:hmm


:hmm ???

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26 Oct 2009 22:53 #27059 by Inja
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I'm not sure I'm a believer of Short High Intensity Cycles. Firstly such high doses of gear must be far more toxic and unhealthy.
Second, exactly how muh gear do you think your receptors can handle at once? I would think most of your androgens are simply in your piss...

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26 Oct 2009 23:03 #27060 by Yohimbe
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Two schools of thought-one is the standard 12-14 week cycle with a front runner and the SHIC, usually using short esteres with a get in get out mentality.

The appeal of this to me is that you are not shutting you natural test production for significant periods of time-the longer you shut down for, the harder it is to get kicking again.
Motivates, as after a 12 week cycle, you need to be off cycle+pct, which is 16 weeks.
On a shorty 6 weeks with three weeks pct, off for 9 weeks.

SHIC with minimal shut time comparatively, is the safest way to cycle to preserve natural test production IMO

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27 Oct 2009 17:37 #27177 by Inja
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SHICs don't necessarily use short esters, they use long esters to. What I dont like about SHICs is the higher dosages they use... Those kind of dosages will shut you down quickly and effect heavily on other areas of the body.

If I was doing a 6 week cycle I'd prefer to just stick to the shorter esters like Test prop and some orals and run them in something akin to a SLIC or a SMIC. But I feel SHICs are not only wastefull of gear because your body probably can't bind the massive dosages of test that build up in the blood stream (you only have so many receptors) but are alot less healthy to the body too.

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27 Oct 2009 18:11 #27191 by Yohimbe
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Sorry for jacking the thread a bit-maybe a poll/thread on shics vs standard cycles?

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27 Oct 2009 22:39 #27231 by Inja
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Yeah sorry Gym-guy for the Jack. How much test have you done and what masteron dosages are you thinking of taking?

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11 Nov 2009 10:42 #28549 by gym-guy
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no problem - dont mind the jack hey. as long as the discussions flows.

using Testen 300 at 600mg/week - 12 weeks (im in week 5 now)
was planning to run Masteron 150 at 300mg/week (from week 6)
also running EQ at 600mg/week for 12 weeks.

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11 Nov 2009 19:10 #28573 by Yohimbe
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DHT compound is a good drug to run with test as it acts as an anti e and has an affinity for binding to SHBG, meaning less test will become bound.

I would extend the cycle slightly to 14 weeks with EQ becasue of the half life-you're short changing yourself a little.

Unfortunately no hard and fast rules, but in my experience masteron made me shed hair at quite a rate when test even at high doses without finasteride is fine.

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