test prop shots

is it okay to do test prop shots mon, wed, fri and skip weekends as opposed to eod?

If you really have to you could do it that way, but seeing that Test Prop is a short ester it is better to pin it eod to keep blood levels stable i.e Mon, Wed, Fri, Sun, Tue, Thu, Sat, Mon, Wed,..........

I have a few friends that do it mon wed fri, im also shooting mon wed fri and its working fine. EOD would be more effective im guessing but Im not doing it that way cos Im also pinnin tren twice a week and it cuts cost a lil

Cutting costs at the risk of your own health?

Personal view...if you cant afford Cycle and PCT dont do it. Where will you get money to remedy nasty Acne breakout when your blodlevels go for a bowl of sheet :blush:

medical aid? :laugh:

SNOK1986 wrote:

medical aid? :laugh:

Dont be an ass! Thats the reason my medical aid costs 5400/month!

You are shooting yourself in the foot. And me in the face!

I started pinning prop daily and you can feel the difference that the stable blood levels make-you don't get any highs or lows and no sides.

Dude! I dont cut costs wit PCT! But pinning test prop mon wed and fri is ok. I been doing it and its been working fine for me. Alot of people i know do that.

I dont cut corners when it comes to my PCT or anything that could harm me.
I shoot tren and test prop so i pin every mon wed thurs and fri so the sat and sunday i really dont feel like shooting. Its working well for me.

Yohimbe wrote:

I started pinning prop daily and you can feel the difference that the stable blood levels make-you don't get any highs or lows and no sides.

Whats ur dosage of test prop? and how much do you take a day?

And jackrabbit sorry for shooting you in the face.

SNOK1986 wrote:

Yohimbe wrote:

I started pinning prop daily and you can feel the difference that the stable blood levels make-you don't get any highs or lows and no sides.

Whats ur dosage of test prop? and how much do you take a day?

And jackrabbit sorry for shooting you in the face.

800-900mg per week so around 120mg per day. This was for a 6 week cycle. I also find the prop paion is much better-if I do 240mg EOD i get some pain and the lump, but at 120mg/day virutally nothing.

Ah okay, got a mate doing this sample cycle, www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/sample-cycles...82-lean-mass-cycle-1
Thing is here in this sample cycle its only twice a week the test mg isnt high am i missing something here.

Arn't u in pain from so many injections?

SNOK1986 wrote:

Ah okay, got a mate doing this sample cycle, www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/sample-cycles...82-lean-mass-cycle-1
Thing is here in this sample cycle its only twice a week the test mg isnt high am i missing something here.

Arn't u in pain from so many injections?

In far more pain if I pin EOD, then I have a lump for 2 days and stiffness.
The bitch is having to rotate across so many sites to stop scar tissue build up-last cycle was delts, quads, pecs and tried bis as well-that was shit. Arms stiffened up badly and couldn't train them for a couple of days. So it's only 6 sites and shouldn't pin the same site more than once per week.
Once I've finished this batch of prop, going to go to enanthate or isocaproate and extend cycle length a bit.

Jayzuz bru thats hectic, my mate is only doing 2 shots of test prop a week along with equipoise. he is doing 1 and 1/3 ml of test prop with 1/2 a ml of equi every mon and thurs. Should he rather do three times a week? like you guys are saying?

SNOK1986 wrote:

Jayzuz bru thats hectic, my mate is only doing 2 shots of test prop a week along with equipoise. he is doing 1 and 1/3 ml of test prop with 1/2 a ml of equi every mon and thurs. Should he rather do three times a week? like you guys are saying?

He should do the prop EOD. Why is he doing prop? Why not enth or cyp?
Also when is he planning on starting pct? The prop will be running low by day 4 of stopping, but the EQ has 16 day half life. He will need to keep the prop going for at least a week and a half after stopping the EQ before starting pct.

Pinning prop 2 x week must be playing havoc with his blood levels, needs to push it to EOD or at the very least 3x per week.

Reason he is doing prop coz he hurd that its a good test for gaining lean mass, but i say test is test just the way you take it effects you diff.
He mentioned something about starting his PCT 1 week after last pin.
But as you say he should keep doing the prop for an additional week and 1/2 after last shot of equi.

So after the last pin of equi he carrys on with the prop for another week and a half than starts his PCT the very next day or wait 3 - 4 days and starts it?

SNOK1986 wrote:

Reason he is doing prop coz he hurd that its a good test for gaining lean mass, but i say test is test just the way you take it effects you diff.
He mentioned something about starting his PCT 1 week after last pin.
But as you say he should keep doing the prop for an additional week and 1/2 after last shot of equi.

So after the last pin of equi he carrys on with the prop for another week and a half than starts his PCT the very next day or wait 3 - 4 days and starts it?

Prop is touted as providing leaner gains-this is due to a combination of cumulative value from pinning a couple of times within the half of longer esters and prop clearing quicker and the actual effect of the ester, which seems to affect different people differently. But you still need to use it properly to reap the benefits. Having the blood peak and drop, peak and drop is not ideal.

He should start pct 2 weeks from last EQ pin, so keep running the test prop for a week and a half or so within that that two week period. Otherwise he is going to have a test crash around day 6 with the prop half life running out before he has started pct.

Ahhh awesome... thanks boetie... will pass the info on. Have some karma... *sprinkle sprinkle*

SNOK1986 wrote:

Ahhh awesome... thanks boetie... will pass the info on. Have some karma... *sprinkle sprinkle*

Thanks man-back at you

Yo Yohimbe,

can you tell me more about the pinning of prop into areas other than the glutes? Where in the quads do you inject? Where in the delts? Biceps, pex, tris etc?

My doc says it aint necessary to check for blood when injecting into the glutes. Says the chance of hitting a vein is very remote. He also said that should one hit a vein, it is not necessarily a disaster.

So, when choosing other pinning sites, do you check for blood before injecting? I would definitely when injecting into the quads.

b

bernie wrote:

Yo Yohimbe,

can you tell me more about the pinning of prop into areas other than the glutes? Where in the quads do you inject? Where in the delts? Biceps, pex, tris etc?

My doc says it aint necessary to check for blood when injecting into the glutes. Says the chance of hitting a vein is very remote. He also said that should one hit a vein, it is not necessarily a disaster.

So, when choosing other pinning sites, do you check for blood before injecting? I would definitely when injecting into the quads.

b

The sites I've tried are delts, pecs, quads, glutes, traps, biceps and triceps.
Biceps and triceps were the worst for me, then traps. Delts, pecs and quads are best for me.
I always aspirate, it's true its unlikely but for 3 seconds it's not worth the risk, esp with tren-if that hits your blood stream you have convulsive type coughing. Never done tren myself, but my one buddy really struggles with it.

Delts, I pin midway into the side delt. Those are always smooth, you just can't pin too much oil or you get leakage-can't go over 2cc.
Pecs are also always good and you can go to 3cc with out leakage. I always keep a small air bubble in the syringe so when you pin you put a tiny bit of air in after the oil to stop leakage. I pin just above midway between collar bone and lower pec, slightly upper pec.
Quads are also ok, but sometimes they are shite. I've had a couple of bad bleeders with quads and sometimes some pain-it easier to hit a nerve, a few times I've put the needle in and the muscle has started twitching. But all in all not bad and you can pin 3cc without leakage. I've found it's seems to be best to pin slightly higher than midway on the side outer quad. Never pin the inner quad as there is a massive artery-femoral artery-running down the inner quad.
Traps are also doable, I do it in the bathroom mirror, vertically down on top midway between the neck and shoulder. Not so bad and very little pain, just sometimes if you get stiffness it creeps into your neck-you feel like you've pulled a muscle in your neck. But they actually a lot better than I originally thought they were going to be.

Biceps and triceps I struggle with-also can't pin much or you get leakage, but I've given on them as I get bad stiffness and can't train for a couple of days after.

I don't do glutes anymore, since my gf won't pin me after a little incident, and I don't have the range of motion to do it and aspirate myself. The last time I cramped and twisted and bent the needle-nearly shat myself and thought I'd broken the needle off. So gave up after that.

Thanks Yohimbe,

very informative post. I've injected into biceps before. So will defo try the quads and delts next.

My doc said after an injection into any site, you can massage the site with your thumb or palm of hand for 30 seconds to 1 minute. It speeds up the delivery of the juice in the depot and it also prevents or lessens bleeding and leakage.

b

Yohimbe wrote:

I don't do glutes anymore, since my gf won't pin me after a little incident, and I don't have the range of motion to do it and aspirate myself. The last time I cramped and twisted and bent the needle-nearly shat myself and thought I'd broken the needle off. So gave up after that.

Happened to me as well on the bed cramped in my oblique area turned over instinct bent the needle but wasnt to bad got most of the juice in b4 cramping, my neck muscles actually cramp as well when doing it.

SNOK1986 wrote:

Yohimbe wrote:

I don't do glutes anymore, since my gf won't pin me after a little incident, and I don't have the range of motion to do it and aspirate myself. The last time I cramped and twisted and bent the needle-nearly shat myself and thought I'd broken the needle off. So gave up after that.

Happened to me as well on the bed cramped in my oblique area turned over instinct bent the needle but wasnt to bad got most of the juice in b4 cramping, my neck muscles actually cramp as well when doing it.

My balls went right to my throat-one of those "now I'm fucked" moments.

WAHAHAHAHHHAH - good times good times/ bad times bad times

Guys,

One more question on PGW Test Prop... I know its been discussed before but I couldn't find the thread.

Is it normal to have no pain at all this PGW? I have had some gains but also using Dbol so can't be sure it's the prop. 120mg EOD should I be feeling a little pain or is it okay to feel nothing? Surely not underdosed. Used PGW before (not prop though) and results were great!