Equi and increased RBC's

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25 Jan 2010 16:03 #34397 by Empire
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happyraven mail me dude,i will help u out designing a cycle..

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25 Jan 2010 16:05 #34398 by Happyraven
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Thanks DJ, you are a true legend

i stand corrected but: EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED

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25 Jan 2010 16:09 #34399 by Empire
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still the one dude

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25 Jan 2010 16:14 #34401 by Happyraven
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thanks... sent

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25 Jan 2010 23:02 #34436 by Inja
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Happyraven wrote:

i have officially lost all faith in my supplier, and bear in mind he is one of the top bb's in SA. He has told be to run 300mg/week cypionate and 500mg/week Equi... WTF, now this is contrary to what all yall saying... again...WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Why?
Looks lika standard cutting cycle for someone who values the use of EQ for this purpose.

Sorry if I offend you
Its just my point of view

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26 Jan 2010 07:34 #34440 by jackrabbit1
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Inja wrote:

Happyraven wrote:

i have officially lost all faith in my supplier, and bear in mind he is one of the top bb's in SA. He has told be to run 300mg/week cypionate and 500mg/week Equi... WTF, now this is contrary to what all yall saying... again...WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Why?
Looks lika standard cutting cycle for someone who values the use of EQ for this purpose.


Yes - i was kinda liking this myself. Only i want the EQ at 600! Keep the test bubling.

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26 Jan 2010 08:22 #34444 by Empire
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inja,test cyp for cutting...i said no ways on that idea,at the end of the day cyp converts to estrogen, estrogen is the cause for fat gain,now it would be like playing tug of war with yourself using cyp and cutting,cos the estrogen would cause fat gain but u are trying to get as lean as possible,thats why when cutting using an anti estrogen or an a.i. is best as u will kill estrogen letting the body burn fat not store it...

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26 Jan 2010 08:47 #34447 by Inja
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Yeah test converts to estrogen, but you can still cut on it.

Firstly when I'm dieting I'm in a calorie deficit, so it takes alot for me to put on fat... I mean, I'm burning more calories every day than what I'm putting in. Secondly, like you said, one can simply use an A.I., and many do in a cutting cycle, particularly leading up to a comp. Thirdly, as a personal note, I don't suffer estrogen sides at all at low doses, and 300mg is not going to do much for fat gain, particularly if there is double the amount of EQ on the system competing with test for aromatase enzymes, EQ being even worse at becoming estrogen...

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26 Jan 2010 08:52 #34448 by Empire
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but at 300mg it would be a waste in my opinion...why not just use prop instead and no need for ai's...

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26 Jan 2010 09:09 #34452 by jackrabbit1
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And then back to the topic "increased RBC's "

Donate blood! Just dont tell them its "super" blood.

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26 Jan 2010 09:10 #34454 by Inja
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I suppose it depends on how long you need to cut for. Alot of guys aren't keen on pinning ED or EOD for a long long time. You could start with Cyp and switch to prop. I get your point, I just wanted to point out that you can cut on test cyp, your just using the cyp as an effective anabolic to hold on to muscle mass. Particularly for someone not competing but trying to get bodyfat lower they could run the entire cycle with just cyp and EQ and then drop any water that might have accumulated and be very pleased with the result.

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26 Jan 2010 09:28 #34457 by Happyraven
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Inja wrote:

Happyraven wrote:

i have officially lost all faith in my supplier, and bear in mind he is one of the top bb's in SA. He has told be to run 300mg/week cypionate and 500mg/week Equi... WTF, now this is contrary to what all yall saying... again...WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Why?
Looks lika standard cutting cycle for someone who values the use of EQ for this purpose.


I stand corrected, but i always that your test intake should always be higher than the equi dose... like i said, i stand corrected

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26 Jan 2010 09:37 #34458 by SNOK1986
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Happyraven wrote:

I stand corrected, but i always that your test intake should always be higher than the equi dose... like i said, i stand corrected


Yes u are correct but some people frontload with equi with low doses of test or HCG to maintain test levels than move onto higher doses of test along with the equi. :)

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

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26 Jan 2010 09:38 #34460 by Happyraven
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SNOK1986 wrote:

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I stand corrected, but i always that your test intake should always be higher than the equi dose... like i said, i stand corrected


Yes u are correct but some people frontload with equi with low doses of test or HCG to maintain test levels than move onto higher doses of test along with the equi at a lower dose than the equi.


ahh... thanks bro ;)

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26 Jan 2010 09:42 #34461 by SNOK1986
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i made a mistake at the end of my sentence btw just check it out...

Thanks for the karma back at ja :)

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

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26 Jan 2010 09:52 #34465 by Happyraven
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SNOK1986 wrote:

i made a mistake at the end of my sentence btw just check it out...

Thanks for the karma back at ja :)


Anytime :)

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26 Jan 2010 20:13 #34528 by Yohimbe
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Happyraven wrote:

Inja wrote:

Happyraven wrote:

i have officially lost all faith in my supplier, and bear in mind he is one of the top bb's in SA. He has told be to run 300mg/week cypionate and 500mg/week Equi... WTF, now this is contrary to what all yall saying... again...WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Why?
Looks lika standard cutting cycle for someone who values the use of EQ for this purpose.


I stand corrected, but i always that your test intake should always be higher than the equi dose... like i said, i stand corrected


It is often advisable to have your test higher than EQ dose because EQ converts to dihydroboldonone via 5 alpha reductase, which isn't as androgenic as DHT from test, so you could possibly suffer some erectile dysfunction depending on the dose-similar to the reasoning in keeping test higher than nandrolene dose, but DHB is more androgenic than DHN so its unlikely-I know a lot of guys who've used EQ solo without any problems.

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27 Jan 2010 00:11 #34537 by Inja
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Yeah not really an issue with EQ. If you know your body and know your gear, with a good idea of what you want you can even do EQ only cycles. Little chance of ED from that. Little growth as well though (which is where test comes in).

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27 Jan 2010 21:18 #34588 by darkmonk
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jackrabbit1 wrote:

And then back to the topic "increased RBC's "

Donate blood! Just dont tell them its "super" blood.


I don't think that is such a good idea

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27 Jan 2010 21:20 #34589 by Yohimbe
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darkmonk wrote:

jackrabbit1 wrote:

And then back to the topic "increased RBC's "

Donate blood! Just dont tell them its "super" blood.


I don't think that is such a good idea


Why not?

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27 Jan 2010 21:38 #34590 by darkmonk
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Would you feel comfortable if your 10yr old daughter was in an accident and received blood from a guy on a gram of test,eq,tren
or dont you think it would have any ill effects ? Either way I wouldn't feel comfortable donating.

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27 Jan 2010 21:56 #34592 by Yohimbe
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darkmonk wrote:

Would you feel comfortable if your 10yr old daughter was in an accident and received blood from a guy on a gram of test,eq,tren
or dont you think it would have any ill effects ? Either way I wouldn't feel comfortable donating.



If you use esterized steroids, there is not enough of a dose available in a pint of blood at any time to cause any effects to the recipient. Any test in the blood will be disposed of by the recipient's liver and kidneys within a few hours. Your deposition of steroids is in a muscle and continuously released from that site to replace what is removed by liver and kidneys or also its simply consumed. The lady recipient will probably feel nothing more then a little bit hornier then usual. Some lucky bastards have naturally high levels of test in their blood, but that blood would still be used on females if the type was right.

As far as donating while on steroids. Guys who are on legal testosterone replacement programs are encouraged to donate blood 3 to 4 times a year to combat a condition caused by steroids that causes you to have excessive levels of red blood and white blood cells, your blood while on steroids is excessively thick and the immune system within the blood (white blood cells) are particularly robust. Actually blood given by a steroid user is "better" blood then that given by a non-steroid user. The quality of your blood is so good it can help the recipient heal faster, fight infection, etc, so no reason to hold back, not only that but its good for YOU, the steroid user. We should all donate blood especially if cycles are 3 months or longer because your super thick blood can make you more susceptable to heat stroke or other thick blood related strokes.

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27 Jan 2010 22:17 #34596 by Sting
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Nice post Yohimbe, karma at ya.

Anyways with the high incidence of HIV infected patients in Africa, it makes less blood availabe for donations as their blood cant be used and we need all the blood we can get. If i needed blood in an emergency, and it contained high levels of test I wouldn't care, that blood can still be a life saver to anyone in such a situation.

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27 Jan 2010 22:24 #34597 by Yohimbe
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Beesting wrote:

Nice post Yohimbe, karma at ya.

Anyways with the high incidence of HIV infected patients in Africa, it makes less blood availabe for donations as their blood cant be used and we need all the blood we can get. If i needed blood in an emergency, and it contained high levels of test I wouldn't care, that blood can still be a life saver to anyone in such a situation.


Thanks 'Sting-I feel warm and fuzzy inside ;) Got it from another board.
I see you've been behaving yourself around these parts for a change

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27 Jan 2010 22:49 #34602 by Sting
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Yohimbe wrote:


Thanks 'Sting-I feel warm and fuzzy inside ;) Got it from another board.
I see you've been behaving yourself around these parts for a change

Don't get me started again, and plus u always start, the men are always to blame

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