Test susp vs test prop

  • ABC01
  • Topic Author
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
More
23 Jan 2010 17:05 #34265 by ABC01
Test susp vs test prop was created by ABC01
What is the diff in reaction time between test susp and test prop? In other words: how long does it take for test susp to take effect and test prop to take effect?

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Yohimbe
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
More
23 Jan 2010 17:40 #34269 by Yohimbe
Replied by Yohimbe on topic Test susp vs test prop
Test suspension is pure esterless testosterone crystals suspended in water-it will kick immediately, but has a half life of a few hours. To use suspension as your testosterone, you need to pin it 2x per day to maintain stable blood levels, at least once per day and even then you're going to get fluctuations.

TEst suspension is often used by power lifters 1 hr prior to lifting to get a testosterone rush for added aggression. It can also be used to fuel workouts just prior to a workout to cause a blood test spike, but IMO I would use it over and above a standard estered testosterone.

I like prop-you need to pin it EOD to maintain stable blood levels, but I like to pin it daily as I feel blood levels are far more stable. It's a painful shot, but suspension is worse.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • ABC01
  • Topic Author
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
More
23 Jan 2010 18:02 #34275 by ABC01
Replied by ABC01 on topic Test susp vs test prop
Yohimbe wrote:

Test suspension is pure esterless testosterone crystals suspended in water-it will kick immediately, but has a half life of a few hours. To use suspension as your testosterone, you need to pin it 2x per day to maintain stable blood levels, at least once per day and even then you're going to get fluctuations.

TEst suspension is often used by power lifters 1 hr prior to lifting to get a testosterone rush for added aggression. It can also be used to fuel workouts just prior to a workout to cause a blood test spike, but IMO I would use it over and above a standard estered testosterone.

I like prop-you need to pin it EOD to maintain stable blood levels, but I like to pin it daily as I feel blood levels are far more stable. It's a painful shot, but suspension is worse.


Thanks! How long would you say does it take for the test prop to kick? Say i need to time it so the kick is over a 3 day period, say fri, sat and sun. Would you suggest the pinning to take place the presvious sat, sun and mon for example?

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • SNOK1986
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
More
23 Jan 2010 21:06 #34276 by SNOK1986
Replied by SNOK1986 on topic Test susp vs test prop
ABC01 wrote:

Thanks! How long would you say does it take for the test prop to kick? Say i need to time it so the kick is over a 3 day period, say fri, sat and sun. Would you suggest the pinning to take place the presvious sat, sun and mon for example?


Inject every 3rd day bru not sat sun mon than hope for the best the following week.

depends on how u take the test prop and how ur diet is before u see results, its up to the user to make the results, test prop is not gonna make it happen all of a sudden its u that is gonna make it happen with diet and good training.

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Yohimbe
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
More
23 Jan 2010 21:18 #34277 by Yohimbe
Replied by Yohimbe on topic Test susp vs test prop
Test prop takes around a week to reach decent blood levels, depending on your dose, for you to start feeling the effects. Why do you need it to kick specifically for those days?

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • ABC01
  • Topic Author
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
More
24 Jan 2010 12:20 #34302 by ABC01
Replied by ABC01 on topic Test susp vs test prop
Friend of mine is doing a 3 day endurence event. In the past he used test susp for 3 days leading up to the event. It does miracles for your recovery. He has test prop and wanted to know how to use it to get the same effect as with the test susp

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Yohimbe
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
More
24 Jan 2010 12:44 #34306 by Yohimbe
Replied by Yohimbe on topic Test susp vs test prop
ABC01 wrote:

Friend of mine is doing a 3 day endurence event. In the past he used test susp for 3 days leading up to the event. It does miracles for your recovery. He has test prop and wanted to know how to use it to get the same effect as with the test susp


He'd have to start earlier with the prop-about a week and half before hand. he could frontload for a week to get the blood levels up.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • ABC01
  • Topic Author
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
More
24 Jan 2010 13:39 #34312 by ABC01
Replied by ABC01 on topic Test susp vs test prop
Yohimbe wrote:

ABC01 wrote:

Friend of mine is doing a 3 day endurence event. In the past he used test susp for 3 days leading up to the event. It does miracles for your recovery. He has test prop and wanted to know how to use it to get the same effect as with the test susp


He'd have to start earlier with the prop-about a week and half before hand. he could frontload for a week to get the blood levels up.


Thanks Yohimbe! I'll tell him to start a week and half before the event. Its PGW test prop 100mg/ml. How many times would you suggest he pin to have decent levels over the 3 days?

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • BB_guy
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
More
24 Jan 2010 13:45 #34313 by BB_guy
Replied by BB_guy on topic Test susp vs test prop
Does he only have 1 vial of 10ml?

ʎɐqǝ uo pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ɐ ʎnq ı ǝɯıʇ ʇsɐן ǝɥʇ sı sıɥʇ

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Yohimbe
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
More
24 Jan 2010 13:45 #34314 by Yohimbe
Replied by Yohimbe on topic Test susp vs test prop
He needs to pin it EOD to maintain stable blood levels. A week and a half is the minimum, he would probably be better starting 2 weeks before the event. What doses does he want to use?

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • ABC01
  • Topic Author
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
More
24 Jan 2010 16:41 #34322 by ABC01
Replied by ABC01 on topic Test susp vs test prop
BB_guy wrote:

Does he only have 1 vial of 10ml?


Yip

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • ABC01
  • Topic Author
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
More
24 Jan 2010 16:42 #34323 by ABC01
Replied by ABC01 on topic Test susp vs test prop
Yohimbe wrote:

He needs to pin it EOD to maintain stable blood levels. A week and a half is the minimum, he would probably be better starting 2 weeks before the event. What doses does he want to use?


1ml/pin (100mg/pin)

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Inja
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
More
25 Jan 2010 22:54 #34435 by Inja
Replied by Inja on topic Test susp vs test prop
Heck, use the whole vial and start it at the exact time so that the vial will finish on the day of the event. Pin the last pin the morning of the event or night before if its a morning event.

Hope he's not being tested though...

Sorry if I offend you
Its just my point of view

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • jackrabbit1
  • Expert
  • Expert
More
26 Jan 2010 07:37 #34441 by jackrabbit1
Replied by jackrabbit1 on topic Test susp vs test prop
Inja wrote:

Heck, use the whole vial and start it at the exact time so that the vial will finish on the day of the event........


Bargain on 9.5 ml or just draw a little less each time. You have to compensate for the wasted oil left in the pipes.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Yohimbe
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
More
26 Jan 2010 19:39 #34526 by Yohimbe
Replied by Yohimbe on topic Test susp vs test prop
jackrabbit1 wrote:

Inja wrote:

Heck, use the whole vial and start it at the exact time so that the vial will finish on the day of the event........


Bargain on 9.5 ml or just draw a little less each time. You have to compensate for the wasted oil left in the pipes.


When you've drawn, draw a small air bubble which will rise to the top of the oil when pinning. That way you'll get the last drop of oil out of the needle.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • ABC01
  • Topic Author
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
More
27 Jan 2010 08:10 #34545 by ABC01
Replied by ABC01 on topic Test susp vs test prop
Thanks for help guys! One last thing: If he runs the test prop for 2 weeks does he need to do any type of PCT?

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • jackrabbit1
  • Expert
  • Expert
More
27 Jan 2010 08:30 #34549 by jackrabbit1
Replied by jackrabbit1 on topic Test susp vs test prop
Yohimbe wrote:

When you've drawn, draw a small air bubble which will rise to the top of the oil when pinning. That way you'll get the last drop of oil out of the needle.


Yip! thats what i do. Some people get freaked out when you mention "air bubble" and "syringe" in the same sentence. :laugh:

I'm still short on EVERY vial. The mind is too strong - stealing a little bit from the next shot.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Lesa
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
More
27 Jan 2010 13:10 #34563 by Lesa
Replied by Lesa on topic Test susp vs test prop
ABC01 wrote:

Thanks for help guys! One last thing: If he runs the test prop for 2 weeks does he need to do any type of PCT?


Maybe a week of nolvadex and/or clomid just to be on the safe side

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • SNOK1986
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
More
27 Jan 2010 15:40 #34573 by SNOK1986
Replied by SNOK1986 on topic Test susp vs test prop
Yeah lesa is right, to be safe do some kesser or clomid, doesnt have to be very long since u havent been on for long. Max 2 weeks. Small dosages 20mg a day shud be fine. :)

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Yohimbe
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
More
27 Jan 2010 18:42 #34580 by Yohimbe
Replied by Yohimbe on topic Test susp vs test prop
jackrabbit1 wrote:

Yohimbe wrote:

When you've drawn, draw a small air bubble which will rise to the top of the oil when pinning. That way you'll get the last drop of oil out of the needle.


Yip! thats what i do. Some people get freaked out when you mention "air bubble" and "syringe" in the same sentence. :laugh:

I'm still short on EVERY vial. The mind is too strong - stealing a little bit from the next shot.


I know the stealing routine all too well :)

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Yohimbe
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
More
27 Jan 2010 18:43 #34581 by Yohimbe
Replied by Yohimbe on topic Test susp vs test prop
Bump Lesa and Snok, run some nolva to be safe

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Powered by Kunena Forum