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05 Feb 2010 10:21 #35228 by saiman
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I currently have a box of 19-norandrostene-dione at home. Its the same company in SA that does the Mega Anadrol which you see on the shelves. Will doing a 4 weeks cycle of this product (200mg/day) give me any gains?

Also wondering if a proper PCT will not be too much for such low dose of the product.

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05 Feb 2010 13:38 #35254 by Lesa
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very weak pro hormone and the gains will be very small if any at all and no you would not need a PCT for it i guess. If you do decide to pct i would go for a week of one tab nolva ED for a week. In all honesty i dont think you will be happy from this stuff

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05 Feb 2010 13:43 #35257 by missiondh
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Lesa is correct in saying it is very weak, it does also bloat quite badly. I was far from impressed with it!

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05 Feb 2010 13:59 #35258 by saiman
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Did you guys take 200mg a week and also the SA version (white container with red writing on it)?

Would it be better to stack it with the Mega Anadrol? I dont want a hectic cycle. Just some strength boost

I mean thing is I have it sitting at home or is it so bad that I should just dump it?

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05 Feb 2010 14:02 #35259 by missiondh
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I used the ACR brand with Super Anadrol and it was such a waist of time. Super Anadrol alone is a much better option.

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05 Feb 2010 14:06 #35260 by saiman
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could be hey. And how was the shutdown on the 19-nor? since its a precursor to Deca it should be quite harsh on your libido?

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05 Feb 2010 14:08 #35261 by missiondh
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Oh yes the libido, it shut me down good! But that's why PCT is there. ;)

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05 Feb 2010 14:14 #35263 by saiman
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so you'd say 4 weeks of mega-anadrol plus pct (nolva 40/40/20/20) will do the trick?

What was your diet like on cycle? sorry about all the questions

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05 Feb 2010 14:16 #35265 by missiondh
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Sounds good bud! Mega Anadrol min. of 30mg per day.

Upped my calories, but keep it clean though.Protein at at least 300g. Works well, I use it often with nice results all the time. ;)

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05 Feb 2010 14:21 #35266 by saiman
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Ok thanks a million bro. Sorry last question. As support supps would you say some Zinc (for skin) , Milk Thistle and B6 is enough or what else can I throw in?

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05 Feb 2010 14:38 #35271 by missiondh
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As support supps go keep it simple and save the best of them for the pct (creatine, glutamine, zma). Milk thistle is always welcome and a good multivit.

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05 Feb 2010 14:40 #35273 by missiondh
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Forgot too mention, use milk thistle rather in pct!

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05 Feb 2010 14:44 #35274 by saiman
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but shouldn't you take it throughout cos of the liver damage?

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05 Feb 2010 15:08 #35280 by missiondh
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Yes but do it rather in the pct as the milk thistle may interact with the prohormone. It may sound strange but I did a lot of research and most people say you shouldn't use liver aids while on a prohormone cycle.

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05 Feb 2010 15:18 #35281 by saiman
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thats some good advice bro. very interesting. Will also do some research on this. Thanks again

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05 Feb 2010 15:19 #35282 by dirkgreeff
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saiman why not just do a simple 8 week test only cycle? Gains will be better plus as far as sides go (with those of PHs close to actual Test) at least you will be on the real deal.

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05 Feb 2010 15:24 #35283 by saiman
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you right dirkgreeff. That would be the better option but in terms of availability and convenience not possible for me at the moment

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05 Feb 2010 15:48 #35284 by Lesa
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dirkgreeff wrote:

saiman why not just do a simple 8 week test only cycle? Gains will be better plus as far as sides go (with those of PHs close to actual Test) at least you will be on the real deal.


Thats exactly it, why bother with pro hormones if you gonna be doing full PCT anyways. I dont use pro hormones but the guys that do usually just do 1 week of nolva. However this being a 19 nor shut down might be heavier. Just do a test cycle man results cannot even compare. Also 19 nor in my book being a pro hormone or hormone is BAD (because of the shut down). Why use it? Equipoise works very similar if not better and comes with a monster appetite and is a lot less harsh on your HPTA. I mean if you can get nolva how can you not get some gear?

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05 Feb 2010 16:15 #35285 by saiman
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well the 19-nor is already out of consideration

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18 Mar 2010 11:40 #40204 by gogo4
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Sorry massiondh while on the subject of mega anadrol in this thread could you tell me should i run it at 30mg a day 1 in the morn then 1 in the afternoon and then 1 at night and then milk thistle along with PCT after cycle

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18 Mar 2010 12:26 #40213 by missiondh
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Hey bud, yeah that sounds ace! Basically every 5-6 hours. Milk thistle in PCT and you are sorted.

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